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India And Pakistan Latest, Libya Deportations, The Fed And Interest Rates

Thu, 08 May 2025

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Pakistan's defense minister warned that hostilities between his country and India could escalate into a nuclear confrontation, the White House plans to add Libya to the list of countries where it sends deportees, and the Federal Reserve voted to keep interest rates unchanged, for now.Want more comprehensive analysis of the most important news of the day, plus a little fun? Subscribe to the Up First newsletter.Today's episode of Up First was edited by Ryland Barton, Anna Yukhananov, Rafael Nam, Janaya Williams and Alice Woelfle. It was produced by Kaity Kline, Nia Dumas and Christopher Thomas. We get engineering support from Stacey Abbott. And our technical director is Carleigh Strange. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Chapter 1: What's the latest conflict between India and Pakistan about?

2.248 - 8.456 Steve Inskeep

Pakistan says it shot down drones over some of its major cities. It's the aftermath of Indian airstrikes.

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8.776 - 14.063 Leila Fadel

How are two nuclear powers managing the latest confrontation in their generations-long Cold War?

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14.283 - 31.243 Steve Inskeep

I'm Steve Inskeep with Leila Fathom, and this is Up First from NPR News. President Trump's administration plans to send migrants removed from the United States to Libya. The U.S. has deportation deals already with Mexico and El Salvador, so why another?

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31.563 - 39.507 Leila Fadel

And the Federal Reserve says it will wait and see how the economy responds to higher tariffs, but interest rates will remain unchanged for now.

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39.648 - 46.671 Economic Analyst

People are feeling stress and concern, but unemployment hasn't gone up. Job creation is fine. Wages are in good shape.

47.011 - 49.433 Leila Fadel

Stay with us. We'll give you the news you need to start your day.

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82.503 - 103.887 Sarah McCammon

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Chapter 2: How is the situation in Libya affecting deportation policies?

Chapter 3: What is the current stance of the Federal Reserve on interest rates?

31.563 - 39.507 Leila Fadel

And the Federal Reserve says it will wait and see how the economy responds to higher tariffs, but interest rates will remain unchanged for now.

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39.648 - 46.671 Economic Analyst

People are feeling stress and concern, but unemployment hasn't gone up. Job creation is fine. Wages are in good shape.

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47.011 - 49.433 Leila Fadel

Stay with us. We'll give you the news you need to start your day.

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57.958 - 81.04 NPR Politics Podcast

these days there's a lot of news it can be hard to keep up with what it means for you your family and your community consider this from npr as a podcast that helps you make sense of the news six days a week we bring you a deep dive on a story and provide the context backstory and analysis you need to understand our rapidly changing world listen to the consider this podcast from npr

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82.503 - 103.887 Sarah McCammon

Tariffs, recessions, how Colombian drug cartels gave us blueberries all year long. That's the kind of thing the Planet Money podcast explains. I'm Sarah Gonzalez, and on Planet Money, we help you understand the economy and how things all around you came to be the way they are. Para que sepas. So you know. Listen to the Planet Money podcast from NPR.

105.219 - 127.595 NPR Politics Podcast

When Malcolm Gladwell presented NPR's Throughline podcast with a Peabody Award, he praised it for its historical and moral clarity. On Throughline, we take you back in time to the origins of what's in the news, like presidential power, aging, and evangelicalism. Time travel with us every week on the Throughline podcast from NPR.

128.41 - 135.734 Leila Fadel

Blasts heard over Pakistan's second largest city is the latest step in a generations-long conflict in South Asia.

135.954 - 149.782 Steve Inskeep

This morning, residents in Pakistan's second largest city of Lahore were hearing explosions. Pakistan's military spokesman, Lieutenant General Ahmad Sharif, says Pakistan shot down Indian drones, which he says were flying over major cities.

150.162 - 159.077 Lieutenant General Ahmad Sharif

This naked aggression continues, and the armed forces continue are on high degree of alert and neutralizing them as we speak.

Chapter 4: Why is the U.S. planning deportations to Libya?

Chapter 5: How is the India-Pakistan conflict escalating?

135.954 - 149.782 Steve Inskeep

This morning, residents in Pakistan's second largest city of Lahore were hearing explosions. Pakistan's military spokesman, Lieutenant General Ahmad Sharif, says Pakistan shot down Indian drones, which he says were flying over major cities.

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150.162 - 159.077 Lieutenant General Ahmad Sharif

This naked aggression continues, and the armed forces continue are on high degree of alert and neutralizing them as we speak.

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159.877 - 179.245 Steve Inskeep

This is a serious, serious provocation. Let's remember here, India launched multiple strikes against Pakistan on Tuesday. These were considered the most extensive attacks that India has carried out in more than 50 years. India says it was responding to terror attacks last month that were launched out of Pakistani territory.

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179.997 - 185.568 Leila Fadel

On the line with us is NPR's Dia Hadid. She's in Mumbai and covers both India and Pakistan. Good morning.

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185.909 - 186.711 Dia Hadid

Good morning, Laila.

187.131 - 189.797 Leila Fadel

So, Dia, just bring us up to speed. What is happening today?

190.689 - 209.874 Dia Hadid

Right. Well, the Pakistani army spokesman, Lieutenant General Ahmed Sharif, accused India of sending across 25 Israeli-made drones this morning. He says some of them flew over major population centres, including Karachi, which is the biggest city in the country with 20 million people, and crucially Rawalpindi, which is home to Pakistan's general military headquarters.

210.854 - 224.125 Dia Hadid

Sharif says they shot down all the drones, except for one that targeted an old airport in Lahore. He says four military personnel were injured and one civilian killed. Sharif just spoke to the media in English. That's a signal that his message is for the West.

224.545 - 245.706 Lieutenant General Ahmad Sharif

It appears that India has apparently lost the plot and rather than going on a path of rationality, is further escalating in a highly charged environment to satisfy the hubristic mindset of the Indian government.

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