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Up First from NPR

Iran War Escalates, Kurds Stay Out, Global Shipping Crisis

09 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

2.377 - 7.988 Michelle Martin

Israel bombed Iran's oil facilities over the weekend, causing black rain to fall over the capital, Tehran.

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Chapter 2: What recent events escalated the Iran War?

8.048 - 14.642 Steve Inskeep

A senior Israeli official tells NPR's Daniel Estrin Israel expects to defeat Iran in about three weeks.

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14.662 - 26.379 Michelle Martin

I'm Michelle Martin, that's Steve Inskey, and this is Up First from NPR News. One of the groups that could rise up against Iran's government is ethnic Kurds. Many live in western Iran.

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Chapter 3: What is the Kurdish perspective on the Iran conflict?

26.399 - 34.369 Michelle Martin

Others live across the border in Iraq. But an Iraqi leader tells NPR they are, quote, not guns for hire. So what is their role in the Middle East war?

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34.53 - 45.484 Steve Inskeep

Also, the war is blocking traffic through one of the world's most critical shipping lanes. Tankers and container ships are not passing through the Strait of Hormuz, and a global energy crisis is growing.

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Chapter 4: How is the global shipping industry affected by the Iran War?

46.025 - 61.992 Steve Inskeep

Stay with us. We've got the news you need to start your day. Here's a big question hanging over the U.S. and Israeli war in Iran. How long will this war last?

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62.132 - 78.166 Michelle Martin

That question is becoming urgent as the war begins to affect the global economy. Israel escalated the war over the weekend, bombing oil facilities. The disruption of shipments from multiple nations has sent the price of oil soaring. And Iran shows no sign of giving in after choosing a new supreme leader over the weekend.

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78.306 - 85.3 Steve Inskeep

A senior Israeli military official spoke with NPR's Daniel Estrin about how Israel views the prospects for ending the war.

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Chapter 5: What role do ethnic Kurds play in the Middle East conflict?

85.5 - 86.001 Steve Inskeep

Hey there, Daniel.

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86.282 - 86.763 Daniel Estrin

Hi, Steve.

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86.783 - 88.847 Steve Inskeep

Okay, so what is the Israeli timeline?

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89.283 - 111.44 Daniel Estrin

Well, just as we're speaking here, you might hear the alarms. We are getting advance notice on our phones that an Iranian missile is on its way to Israel. So we have a few minutes now to speak before the air raid sirens will go off. But I'll tell you that Israel is expecting that it needs about three weeks. to achieve its goals in Iran.

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111.86 - 117.651 Daniel Estrin

That's what a senior Israeli defense official told me this weekend. This person is in the military's operations directorate.

Chapter 6: How does Israel's military strategy impact the war's duration?

118.011 - 138.804 Daniel Estrin

He spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss Israel's military plans, but he says the goal is to decimate Iran's army, navy, military industries. And Israel also realizes that President Trump could just end the war at any point. So the U.S. is not giving a timeline on how it sees the war and how long it would take. But we do know that the U.S.

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139.225 - 143.41 Daniel Estrin

has not been happy with Israel's targeting of the Iranian oil depots this weekend.

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143.551 - 152.823 Steve Inskeep

And, Daniel, of course, you're going to move when you need to to be safe. Don't worry about us at all, but glad you're with us for another moment. Sounds like there's a little bit of daylight between the U.S., and Israel here.

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Chapter 7: What are the implications of Iran's new supreme leader?

153.224 - 157.029 Steve Inskeep

But why did Israel target Iran's oil facilities? Pretty dramatic.

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157.789 - 175.111 Daniel Estrin

Yeah, well, Israel said that Iran was using that oil to fuel Iranian missiles launched at Israel. But this is also civilian infrastructure we're talking about. U.S. officials have been displeased with the extent of the damage that Israel caused, you know, those skies that were blackened and the oily raindrops that dropped onto Tehran.

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175.592 - 194.101 Daniel Estrin

So I heard from a person briefed on the matter, not authorized to speak publicly, that the The U.S. was not pleased with the extent of that damage. Even Senator Lindsey Graham, who's close to Prime Minister Netanyahu, tweeted publicly, Israel, be cautious about your targets because Iran's oil economy will be needed when Iran's regime collapses.

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Chapter 8: What is the significance of the Strait of Hormuz in global shipping?

194.261 - 204.458 Steve Inskeep

Or Graham hopes it will collapse, although the Iranians seem to be showing what they would consider to be resolved by choosing a supreme leader with the same name as the old supreme leader.

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204.742 - 224.784 Daniel Estrin

That's right. Iran has appointed Mujtaba Khamenei to be the new supreme leader. He's the son of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who was killed by Israel on day one of the war. And the son is seen as even more hardline than the father was. But Iran has sent a message as well this weekend that it can exact a painful price around the region, not just Israel.

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225.165 - 244.363 Daniel Estrin

We saw Iran launch a missile with a dangerous cluster bomb warhead that hit an apartment building here in Tel Aviv just a few minutes drive from me in Tel Aviv. and attacks on oil facilities in the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia took place this weekend as well. So we're seeing the Gulf get dragged into this conflict as well.

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244.924 - 248.113 Daniel Estrin

They've been very hesitant to take part in the war, so we're going to have to see where that goes.

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248.65 - 256.002 Steve Inskeep

Okay. NPR's Daniel Estrin is in Tel Aviv, and Daniel, be sure you're ready to move if you need to in the next few minutes. Appreciate your insights.

256.322 - 256.763 Daniel Estrin

You're welcome.

257.524 - 263.674 Steve Inskeep

Our next report on the war takes us to the western border of Iran, and it helps to get the geography down.

263.954 - 281.29 Michelle Martin

Okay, so try to picture this. Ethnic Kurds live on both sides of the border. On one side, the Kurds are part of Iran. On the other side, Kurds control their own region of Iraq. Some Iranian armed opposition groups have been based on the Iraqi side for decades. The U.S. has talked of encouraging those Kurds to attack Iran.

281.557 - 285.884 Michelle Martin

In recent days, President Trump has suggested that he was for it, but then said he is against it.

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