“Both Wanted To Sleep With Princess Diana” - Epstein & Trump’s Competition To Get To Royal Family
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What are Michael Wolff's views on Donald Trump?
you're not a fan of Trump. Some would even say, you know, you have animosity towards him, maybe even hate towards him. It's felt that way if I watch you in the interviews. Where does your feeling towards Trump come from?
Well, I don't. I mean, you know, I feel that Donald Trump should not be the president of the United States, is not the kind of person I would certainly elect as the president of the United States, is not the kind of person who can carry out what I know to be the demands of being the President of the United States. I mean, Donald Trump, I don't hate Donald Trump. I have no personal animosity toward Donald Trump. As a matter of fact, when we're together, we get along just fine. And I've known Donald Trump for quite a long time back in in New York days. So, you know, I just feel that all of his impulses as the President of the United States are ultimately damaging and counterproductive.
You think some of these stories of Melania, how he met her, and Epstein ties, do you think some of these could be coming from a place? Because everybody tried to get him on Russia. That came back. That wasn't good. Everybody tried to get him on all this stuff with 2024. Hey, here's his mugshot. And every single time, it seems like it's become the next hoax and the next hoax. So maybe people right now are saying, you really think there's any ties with Epstein and Trump?
Well, there are clearly ties with Epstein and Trump.
But anything nefarious?
Nefarious, well, it's how you define, I don't know, this is what I know, I won't even try to define, that they were friends for well more than a decade, almost 15 years. They were interested, both of them were interested primarily in the two things they were interested in were women, girls, and money, get rich quick money stuff. And the girls, women, girls they were interested in, obsessively so, fetishistically in a way, were models. And remember, this was the age of the model, supermodels, runway models, catalog models, Eastern European models, and a wide population of girls who just dreamed of being models. That's what happened. That's what they saw as status. That was the thing that turned them on, I suppose.
You know, Trump's interest in beauty pageants, Epstein with Victoria's Secret girls. That's what they were in constant pursuit of. And then people say to me, but you don't mean to say that Donald Trump was interested in little girls. And I say, listen, what I know is they were interested in models. How old are models? Models certainly at that point in time were anywhere from, I don't know, 14 to 20, basically.
When I hear models, I don't think 14 to 20. I think 18 to 20.
Well, then you would be incorrect in that because that's what they were.
Yeah, no, I'm sure there's young models there. I'm sure there's and that's not what I'm saying. But what I'm saying is, you know, it's easy to the gossip intel when they flirt with each other. Right. So that leads to accusations. And then everyone's writing about it. And the next thing, you know, like the story, you know, the story I read about Princess Diana, you know, the competition between the two. Did you share that story? Was that story shared by somebody? I did. Would you mind sharing that story?
Well, they were deeply interested in the royal family, both of them. And why were they interested in the royal family? Because the royal family was a great social climbing vector. You remember, both Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein are always trying to raise money. Where do we get money from? And Donald Trump, by that point, had gone through several bankruptcies. I mean, nobody at this point is blue chip. So how do you raise money, fairly large sums of money? Well, you raise money by knowing people who can give you access to money. How do you know those people? Well, there are lots of ways, lots of social climbing ways, but one of the best ways is to know someone in the royal family. So it was both Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein became in hot pursuit of access to the royal family.
most successfully with prince andrew but at one point then they had this competition and it was you know this was this i don't know how serious this was or how it was just to amuse them about who would be the first one to sleep with diana this was after the marriage to charles had basically broken up did anybody win
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