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"Clinton Cut Him Off" - Michael Wolff REVEALS Epstein’s Elite Inner Circle Collapse After '06 Arrest

19 Aug 2025

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Chapter 1: What did Jeffrey Epstein reveal about his relationship with Donald Trump?

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Of the 100 hours that you have, what were some things that he said? Did he sound like he was... upset at the president? Did he sound like he was, he missed a relationship? Did he sound like he was over-exaggerating, under-exaggerating? Did you feel hate? Did you feel animosity? Did you feel betrayal?

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What was he like when he was speaking to you during those hundreds of hours, specifically the relationship with Trump?

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25.555 - 57.021 Michael Wolff

Well, as I say, he was enormously detailed about his relationship. He was, I mean, obviously, Donald Trump had had was about to become or was in the process of becoming the president and then became the president. So this became obviously a substantial fact in Jeffrey Epstein's life. His best friend had become the president. Now, this was a friendship that stopped

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over a dispute, a real estate dispute in 2004, and they became bitter enemies. And briefly, and I recount this in one of my books, Jeffrey Epstein believed himself to be the top bidder for a piece of real estate in Palm Beach in 2004. He had bid $36 million for this Palm Beach house. He took his friend Donald Trump over to advise him on the logistics of moving the swimming pool.

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Chapter 2: What caused the falling out between Epstein and Trump?

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His friend Trump then immediately went around his back and bid $40 million for the House and got the House. Epstein, on his part, believed and Epstein had pretty intimate knowledge of Trump's financial basis. I mean, they were involved with deals together. Epstein was among Trump's business advisors, in essence. And Epstein believed that Trump did not have $40 million. Therefore,

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Therefore, he concluded that Trump was fronting for someone and that this was essentially a money laundering, part of a money laundering scheme. And in fact, the house was sold, Trump sold the house within two years for $95 million, which would be a kind of a red flag that something was going on here. Trump began to, Epstein was furious with Trump over this real estate betrayal.

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And I often think that men of a certain level of wealth, the thing that angers them most is a real estate betrayal. But he started to threaten Trump with lawsuits and with going going to the press with this allegation that this is Epstein.

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Epstein threatened to sue Trump. Yes.

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Yes. And I've been to this house.

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It looks nothing like it does in this picture because they tore it down. They rebuild it back up. I looked at this house four years ago with a realtor in Palm Beach who was showing me a bunch of homes. It's an immaculate house. I mean, the house looks, it doesn't look like a house. It looks like a museum. It's a beautiful property.

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So he's threatened to sue him, even though they're friends, he's threatened to sue him over this deal. Yes. Okay. Yes. As I say, rich men break down over real estate disputes. Okay. At any rate, at that point, Epstein's legal problems began. The police began to investigate him over allegations that there were underage women coming to his house.

Chapter 3: How did Epstein's real estate dealings impact his friendship with Trump?

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Epstein believed that it was Trump who first informed the police about what was going on at Epstein's house. And from that point on, they were nothing but bitter enemies.

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And this is what he's telling you. This is one of the instances of what he's telling you. Yes.

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That is the version of this related by Epstein.

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Okay. If it's 100 hours, you know, Michael, what else did he say? Did he say anything about Clintons? Did he say anything about... than other politicians or businessmen.

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287.389 - 316.025 Michael Wolff

Yeah, you know, he said a lot. I mean, the 100 hours is pretty much a, in some sense, his autobiography. He's talking through the details of his life. Trump does not occupy most of these hours. Trump, I would say, is... you know, 15%, maybe, maybe, maybe a little more. I mean, he keeps coming back to Trump and obviously that's one of my interests here.

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So I'm pressing him on the, on the Trump relationship, but he's also speaking about broadly other things. Yes. He speaks about Clinton some, somewhat, um, Clinton turned his back on Epstein after Epstein's legal problems began. So he was, you know, I think he felt that at best Clinton was a fair weather friend. And that was largely the regard he had for Clinton at this point.

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And there was a set of other people like that. Many people turned on Epstein after this.

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What other names would you say? So far we have Clinton, we have Trump. Any other big names that he would speak to you about?

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Yes, yeah, Ghislaine Maxwell.

Chapter 4: What allegations did Epstein make against Trump regarding police involvement?

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So Ghislaine Maxwell, who had been very close to him, obviously, after 2004, after the police stepped into this, 2004, 2005, she very much distanced herself from Epstein. And Epstein was hurt by this. She distanced herself from Epstein? Yes. Yeah.

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They had no, I mean, this is in this story and obviously Ghislaine is so closely linked to Epstein at this point and the one person in this whole scandal to go to jail. But the truth is that by 2004, 2005, she was pretty much out of his life.

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Wow.

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422.906 - 427.693 Michael Wolff

Yeah. And yeah, I mean a little. You know again, it's very hard to separate.

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427.933 - 451.609 Michael Wolff

I mean the whole facts of this of this Epstein story are clouded, not least of all by the fact that that most of the information that we get about this story is from people who don't know anything who are speculating or who are adopting the information they have heard from somebody else who doesn't know anything and the people who do know things.

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or have been so paranoid about being connected to Jeffrey Epstein that they haven't spoken. So therefore, everything or many of the things that we know about this story are soft.

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Did he say anything about Ghislaine that maybe the public doesn't know about that it stuck out? Any story that he said where you're like, wow, I never knew that. I think the public needs to know this story about the two of them.

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Well, I don't... I mean, I think what's not recognized is that, A, that Ghislaine was out of his life at a relatively long-ago moment, that at... that while they had had a close relationship, a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship, for a short period, after that, she increasingly became not his partner in crime, but his

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His functionary, his employee, she was getting paid and she was carrying out whatever duties he told her to carry out or whatever duties she inferred that she had to carry out. So I think, again, that's another misperception of this relationship.

Chapter 5: What were Epstein's views on the Clintons after his legal troubles began?

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