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"Obama AWARDED Homan!" - Democrats WEAPONIZE ICE As Trump REPEATS Obama’s Tactics

22 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What recent events in Minnesota sparked discussions about ICE protests?

0.031 - 1.533 Patrick Bet-David

Have you guys seen some of these clips?

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1.773 - 2.855 Unknown

Yeah. Have you guys seen some of this?

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2.875 - 29.751 Patrick Bet-David

My own brother was. Yeah, Rob, can you play some of these Minnesota clips that we got, that I sent you? Let's see which ones we got here. Go to, I'm trying to see which one we go here. Go to the one with, first of all, that's a concert from Bruce Springsteen. Okay, here's a man, okay? Here's a man, pro-ice man, tout slogans in favor of police. Here's what happens shortly after. Watch this guy.

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30.085 - 34.931 Unknown

Watch this.

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34.951 - 38.415 Patrick Bet-David

They take his glasses. He chases down to get his glasses.

39.977 - 47.365 Unknown

Gets tripped once.

51.57 - 55.435 Patrick Bet-David

Doesn't get his glasses. This is Minnesota right now. Minneapolis right now.

56.849 - 61.093 Elan

Yeah, bleeding. Yeah, no one shows any empathy. You notice there's empathy is dead.

61.113 - 66.899 Patrick Bet-David

Now, go back. Go back to the other one, Rob. Go back. Play this one. Watch this.

Chapter 2: How do media double standards influence public perception of protests?

80.833 - 83.214 Unknown

Tripping him. Another assault.

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83.234 - 84.136 Elan

They're trained to do this.

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84.236 - 96.516 Unknown

Of course. Of course. And they're putting ice and pouring water all over the floor to make it slippery for them, too.

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96.536 - 113.799 Patrick Bet-David

Rob, I don't know if you got all of them. Do you have the roadblock? Yeah, pull up the roadblock. Look what these guys have to do. Is that the one? No, it's not. It's the other one, Rob. Yeah, right there. Watch this one. Just blocking the road.

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113.819 - 114.64 Unknown

Oh, good.

114.7 - 116.643 Patrick Bet-David

That makes me happy. I love that.

117.964 - 123.09 Unknown

Because, again, you're making them into stationary targets, bro. If somebody wants to shoot them, this is bad.

123.911 - 140.13 Patrick Bet-David

They're continuing to do this left and right. There's even enough. Okay, this is the last one, Rob. Can you play the one with that one right there? Watch this. This guy finally gets sick of it. He says, look, people got to get to work.

142.085 - 153.337 Elan

Well, that's where they lose, when they disrupt people's ability to get to work. This is actually where they lose support when they do things like that.

Chapter 3: What tactics are being used by protesters against ICE operations?

155.479 - 183.09 Unknown

We can't show it because of the outlet that it came from, but there's a video of these leftists in Minneapolis. ISIS trying to apprehend a child sex offender, a pedophile. And he pulls up and he goes, hey, you guys are stopping me from getting a sex offender. Okay, play this one, Rob. We're here to arrest a child sex offender. And you guys are out here honking.

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183.711 - 184.912 Elan

Yeah, yeah, all of a sudden.

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185.673 - 208.865 Unknown

That vehicle right there is honking and impeding our investigations while we're trying to arrest a child sex offender. That's who you guys are protecting. Stupid morons. Useful idiots at the highest level. And mind you, they call Trump the pedophile protector. It's them. And what these morons, and again, I blame CBS, CNN, MSNOW, whatever the hell they want to call it.

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208.885 - 231.44 Unknown

Do they forget Trump rescued 62,000 missing border kids from sex slavery and forced labor, okay? And Adam, I disagree with you 100%. I think they doubled down. Invoke the Insurrection Act. Get the National Guard in there. Do a sweep and get rid of all of them. I saw Kristi Noem went up against that girl from CBS. Was it Rob? I think I sent you the clip. She went up.

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231.801 - 243.422 Unknown

Margaret, I believe Margaret Brennan. Correct. Look at how, and again, you're a propagandist. Right here, Kristi Noem, Department of Homeland Security Secretary, is giving you the facts. She can't take it. Go ahead.

Chapter 4: How does public support for protests change during chaotic events?

243.402 - 251.151 Unknown

What's the breakdown of the percentage of those who you have in custody who have actually committed a criminal offense versus just the civil infraction?

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252.903 - 274.219 Tom Homan

Every single individual has committed a crime. 70% of them have committed or have charges against them on violent crimes and crimes that they are charged with or have been convicted of that have come from other countries that are here illegally, first of all. And then they have committed a criminal act while they've been here or in their home countries as well. It's not 70%.

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274.199 - 275.16 Elan

Yeah, she's fritzing out.

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275.961 - 276.401 Tom Homan

Yes, it is.

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277.102 - 278.483 Unknown

It absolutely is.

278.784 - 297.763 Tom Homan

You guys keep changing your percentage. You pick and choose what numbers you think work. But that is the facts, is that 70% of the people that we have detained have charges against them or have been convicted of charges. And they need to be brought to justice. And we're going to keep doing that no matter how much you guys keep lying and don't tell the public the truth.

297.803 - 304.892 Tom Homan

It absolutely is that these law enforcement officers are out there every day doing the work to protect the American people.

304.912 - 311.943 Unknown

So I want to understand what you were saying in 2016. It was a different time, but the same tactics. I want to understand where you're going with this.

312.304 - 317.993 Patrick Bet-David

So let me ask you a question. How have tactics dramatically changed what iced the last nine years?

Chapter 5: What similarities exist between Obama and Trump's immigration tactics?

347.323 - 370.035 Unknown

Sure. You don't. The difference... We got this cool plane ticket for you. No. Let me just... I'm going to go rapid fire here. In 2016, Barack Obama, who deported way more people than Trump, was the president. He wasn't running for re-election. He was the darling of the media. It was... He was the... What's it called when you're a lame duck?

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370.055 - 392.05 Unknown

And he's not running for anything, so he's out the door. Doesn't matter. Doesn't have to answer to anything. Also, social media is in the infancy phases. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram. It started with the early adopters, 2012, 2014, 2016. You don't have an entire generation of Gen Z that's been woke and basically for 10 years consuming social media, consuming social media, TikTok influencing them.

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392.07 - 404.003 Unknown

So it's totally different now. Trump tells you I'm coming after you, triggering all these people that have TDS for 10 years, waiting for this moment, defending illegals.

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404.344 - 404.824 Patrick Bet-David

What's your point?

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404.844 - 422.145 Unknown

The point is the world has changed, but ICE tactics haven't changed once. Period. Tom Homan is the same person he was 10 years ago when he was beloved, won some award. Wait a minute. There's just one thing. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. That's not correct, Adam. There's parts of what you just said there is absolutely incorrect.

422.125 - 438.882 Unknown

ICE today is, thanks to the biometrics, tracking information, cell phone data tracking, and cameras and things that they have been having at the border to capture things, ICE is faster and more precise with the people they are picking out today than they were 10 years ago, because the technology is better.

Chapter 6: How has social media impacted the public's view on immigration enforcement?

439.223 - 459.851 Unknown

Now, is the methods of ICE, get five officers together, make sure they're very safe, well-armed, protecting each other, two vehicles, go to a house, knock, go in? Sure, that part is the same. But what isn't the same on the outside is all the social media making that look bad. But ICE is faster and more precise with the people they're going after today than they were under Obama.

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460.211 - 482.44 Unknown

So there's greater precision to the people that they're going to pick up than there was. But now they're under this light of social media and paid protests that you can't make it look good. To Pat's point 10 minutes ago for the question directly, the question he's answered, ICE hasn't changed. Technology has changed, but social media is now, and paid protests are making them look bad.

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482.42 - 500.339 Unknown

I actually agree with you. How do you win that in the court of public opinion? So I agree with you. ICE has not changed. Technology has changed. So social media, if you're going to go there, I agree with you. Social media, how many people were filming people in 2016 during the ICE raids? Nobody. That's right.

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500.419 - 520.321 Unknown

The Nobel laureate, Margaret Brennan, is misquoting statistics to Kristi Noem, who is running the agency for the statistics that Margaret Brennan is trying to – You guys are looking at this. Margaret Brennan should prep with more than just Politico because Kristi Noem is going to sit there and say, well, my agency, I've got all the data right here. People were arrested at 70 percent.

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520.502 - 536.98 Elan

You guys are looking at this like a political problem. It's a cultural problem. There's been an inversion of truth that's taken hold in America. What's good is now bad. What's bad is now good. I agree. So we're not going to win this on any other level than affecting the culture, getting people back to what kind of country can be sustainable.

536.96 - 563.575 Elan

that starts blocking people trying to go after child predators why is the media not talking about i saw a list of the people who are child traffickers child abusers who've been arrested and deported by ice anyone should be okay with that the fact that we're in a current state where that's number one being ignored by the media being defended by people shows that we're lost on a much deeper level then let's give people information let's talk about the to them about politics

Chapter 7: What statistics are often misrepresented in the immigration debate?

563.555 - 580.134 Elan

We have to get back to basics here. There's something fractured in our society, in our ideology as people, as a country. So that's the real problem. That's the real root of it. It's deeper than Trump. It's deeper than just the media. There's a cultural sickness that's taken hold. It's a leftist ideology, and it's disgusting.

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580.215 - 583.699 Unknown

It's a godless party that runs on pure evil.

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584.139 - 594.443 Elan

Evil. That's all it is, brother. It is evil. To defend a child trafficker is evil. There's no other word for it. It shouldn't be tiptoed around. Call it what it is and deal with it.

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594.744 - 600.379 Patrick Bet-David

Elon, for the audience that doesn't know, you've been on Unusual Suspects five times. Take a minute and kind of give your background.

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600.477 - 619.027 Elan

My name's Elan. I have a martial arts podcast called Inside Fighting. I've been a martial artist my whole life. I've also acted my whole life. I've worked on TV shows like The Walking Dead. I was in the big short Deepwater Horizon with Mark Wahlberg and Brad Pitt. Also an entrepreneur. I've started a company called Eggard Wash Company. We did some really interesting stuff.

619.067 - 626.839 Elan

We took stances on a lot of issues. We did a response to Gillette, which went very viral back in the day when they were putting out all that toxic masculinity stuff. We stood up for...

Chapter 8: What cultural issues are highlighted in the discussions about ICE and immigration?

626.819 - 640.336 Elan

Real women in sports. We stood up against vaccine mandates. So we're well known for all of that kind of stuff. And just, yeah, always trying to start businesses to the point of driving myself crazy.

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640.356 - 644.981 Unknown

I let him choke me out in the back just to see if he was a real deal. I'm the real deal. I was gone for five minutes.

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645.001 - 645.402 Elan

I love it.

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645.622 - 646.683 Patrick Bet-David

I love it. Thank you so much.

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646.703 - 656.799 Unknown

Can I give our friend a little bit of credit right now? I'm sending this to Rob. You're absolutely right. Because, and this is something that I go to the well on quite often, about how the common shared values.

656.819 - 659.404 Patrick Bet-David

Adam, I really want to go to the next story, buddy. So if you want to go, go quick.

659.424 - 672.79 Unknown

The common shared values that we have have completely declined. So what you're saying is accurate. Our shared values that wants to find us, we no longer have. Yeah. So everything that we're talking about, we wouldn't have been this divisive. True.

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