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“Reverse Aging Is Easier Than You Think” - Longevity Expert CALLS OUT Age Reversal HYPE

19 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: Who is Brian Johnson and what are his age reversal claims?

0.031 - 15.433 Patrick Bet-David

Have you heard about Brian Johnson, who says he wants to live forever? He says he's 47 years old. He looks good. He says he's got a body of an 18-year-old when he does his tests. Do you follow what he talks about, Brian Johnson? I don't know. Maybe you've not heard of him.

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15.874 - 16.455 Rhonda Patrick

I've heard of him.

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16.595 - 30.112 Patrick Bet-David

OK. He's our age. I think he's a year older than us. And his claims are, his entire idea is anti-aging. I think he wants to live forever. And he says his body's an 18-year-old body. What do you say about that?

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31.554 - 54.509 Rhonda Patrick

I say that right now, the tests that are done to measure biological age, and I did talk about this a little bit without going into detail, they're done on a population level. So it's a very biostatistical test that's done that really, really relies on large, large sample numbers. And so there's these tests that are done.

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54.55 - 74.638 Rhonda Patrick

They're measuring epigenetic changes, and they can basically measure your biological age. But the standard of deviation is about four to five years. So when you have hundreds of thousands of different people coming into that sample size, it's a lot more accurate. You can actually do a large study and

74.99 - 100.39 Rhonda Patrick

and figure out like what someone's biological age is and what different lifestyle factors can regulate that. When you go down to these consumer available tests at the individual level, it's a lot of noise because again, the standard of deviation is four to five years on average. And so the test isn't really that accurate on the individual level. So you could do that test and then do it again,

100.977 - 122.894 Rhonda Patrick

in two weeks and have five years difference, right? So my take home from that is you can claim all these things being biologically 18. I don't think that's accurate. I think that Brian Johnson's doing a lot of things right with his diet and lifestyle and he is improving the way he ages.

Chapter 2: What are the limitations of epigenetic testing in measuring biological age?

123.034 - 146.112 Rhonda Patrick

It's a lot easier to reverse. accelerated aging. So in other words, if you were doing things bad in your diets, if you're eating a lot of ultra processed foods, if you're overweight, if you smoke, if you drink a lot, if you're sedentary and don't exercise, you're kind of accelerating the way you age. And it's a lot easier to slow that acceleration, which makes it look like reverse aging.

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146.533 - 164.814 Rhonda Patrick

But if you're already doing everything really that you can to live as healthy as you can, It's really hard to reverse that biological age by 20 years because you're already doing sort of everything, right? And that's where these new technologies come into play. So I would say I don't believe that Brian Johnson's 18.

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165.455 - 166.597 Patrick Bet-David

You don't believe he's 18?

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167.237 - 187.665 Rhonda Patrick

His biological age is 18. No, not at all. I do believe that he is healthier because he does a lot of things right. He exercises a lot, which is the number one thing you can do. He eats very clean. He's dialed in a lot of really important metrics in terms of aging healthy, but I think it's a very sensational statement to say that I'm biologically 18 even though I'm 47.

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187.725 - 188.866 Rhonda Patrick

I don't think that's accurate at all.

190.588 - 202.598 Patrick Bet-David

It's attractive to men his age, right? People hear and they're like, wait a minute, I'd like to be 18 again. What does it take for me to be 18 again? Is there anything men can do today to get their body to be that much younger?

203.299 - 211.955 Rhonda Patrick

So I'll tell you about a study that was done from Dr. Ben Levine He's probably one of the world's leading experts in exercise physiology.

213.417 - 213.958 Patrick Bet-David

Ben Levine.

213.998 - 227.779 Rhonda Patrick

Ben Levine, Dr. Ben Levine. He's out of UT Southwest in Dallas. He's got a big research lab there. And he did a study on middle-aged adults. So these are adults that are age 55.

Chapter 3: How can exercise reverse heart aging?

504.813 - 524.554 Rhonda Patrick

that they can actually reverse the aging of their heart by 20 years. And so, and this is what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about doing the DNA tests, the epigenetic tests that has all the statistical noise. I'm talking about actual structural changes in the heart, right? So that to me would be the best thing that you can do. And I said five hours a week.

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525.175 - 534.685 Rhonda Patrick

Now for someone that doesn't exercise at all, that probably sounds like crazy amounts of exercise. And it is, I mean, I do about six hours a week of exercise.

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534.665 - 536.89 Patrick Bet-David

Does that count cardio or no?

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537.712 - 553.568 Rhonda Patrick

Cardio and resistance training. I do both. I do both. But I think that what's really important here is that people need to think about exercise as part of their personal hygiene. Something you have to, like, can you imagine, do you wake up every morning and brush your teeth? Do you brush your teeth before you go to bed? Why?

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554.628 - 555.75 Patrick Bet-David

It's a routine now for me.

555.89 - 558.375 Rhonda Patrick

It's a routine. Right. And you do it because you don't want cavities, right?

558.395 - 563.704 Patrick Bet-David

I don't want cavities, breath, cavities. You don't want to go to the dentist, a bunch of different things.

563.724 - 564.986 Rhonda Patrick

Right. It's part of your personal hygiene.

565.006 - 565.126 Patrick Bet-David

Sure.

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