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"The Fed Got Caught" - DOJ DROPS THE HAMMER on Powell Over $2B SCANDAL

13 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What investigation is the DOJ conducting against Jerome Powell?

0.031 - 16.329 Patrick

Federal prosecutors open investigation into federal chair Powell. What? Oh, boy. Yep, they're going after Jerome Powell, which is stirring up a lot of conversation. Rob, is this him saying that it's happening? Go ahead, Rob.

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17.59 - 38.093 Jerome Powell

Good evening. On Friday, the Department of Justice served the Federal Reserve with grand jury subpoenas, threatening a criminal indictment related to my testimony before the Senate Banking Committee last June. That testimony concerned, in part, a multi-year project to renovate historic Federal Reserve office buildings.

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40.057 - 48.692 Jerome Powell

I have deep respect for the rule of law and for accountability in our democracy. No one, certainly not the chair of the Federal Reserve, is above the law.

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49.614 - 65.658 Jerome Powell

But this unprecedented action should be seen in the broader context of the administration's threats and ongoing pressure. This new threat is not about my testimony last June or about the renovation of the Federal Reserve buildings. It is not about Congress's oversight role.

66.178 - 75.012 Jerome Powell

The Fed, through testimony and other public disclosures, made every effort to keep Congress informed about the renovation project. Those are pretexts.

Chapter 2: How is the $2.5 billion renovation project connected to the scandal?

76.575 - 87.676 Jerome Powell

The threat of criminal charges is a consequence of the Federal Reserve setting interest rates based on our best assessment of what will serve the public, rather than following the preferences of the President.

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89.018 - 107.207 Jerome Powell

This is about whether the Fed will be able to continue to set interest rates based on evidence and economic conditions, or whether instead monetary policy will be directed by political pressure or intimidation. I have served at the Federal Reserve under four administrations, Republicans and Democrats alike.

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107.457 - 115.512 Jerome Powell

In every case, I have carried out my duties without political fear or favor, focused solely on our mandate of price stability and maximum.

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115.532 - 118.278 Patrick

We get the idea of what's happening. So, Tom, what's going on over here, Tom?

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118.298 - 131.078 Tom

So what he did was the Fed chairman, Powell, was in front of Congress because to renovate a building, an individual building, suddenly the price tag was $2.5 billion.

131.098 - 154.783 Tom

Now, when you look at the Department of Defense once got caught paying $6,000 for a simple hammer, yeah, you know that when the government is paying for things, there's graft, there's kickbacks, there's things, there's all these allegations. I'm not saying that there was that on the Fed building. But all those allegations, usually when there's audits, really – You know, point bad.

154.863 - 170.708 Tom

So last year, and the ad there, there it is. Federal Reserve blows $2.5 billion on Palace of Versailles headquarters. So this was, they really got caught, Pat. They were, this building is poorly managed. This is embarrassing. And it's embarrassing.

170.688 - 186.064 Tom

So Powell was over there, said a couple things that in Congress turned out to be not perfectly correct, but no one, including the Congressional Committee, thought that Powell was out and out lying the way, say, Minneapolis-level fraud lying. Mm-hmm.

186.044 - 213.88 Tom

Well, Trump at the same time has been putting pressure on Powell, as has Fannie and Freddie, you know, Bill Pulte, has been pushing on Powell to lower interest rates to see if we could help the housing market a little bit. or a little bit more. And Trump also wants to lower those rates for, Pat, US debt is coming due and it's gonna be refinanced. He wants it refinanced at lower interest rates.

Chapter 3: What does the panel say about the Federal Reserve's independence?

347.088 - 355.385 Patrick

So you have to be fair and see optics. You know, I don't know if this is. You just have to know, when is his time up, Rob? Isn't his time coming up in June?

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355.465 - 357.992 Adam

In May of 2026. He's got four months.

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358.012 - 371.678 Patrick

It's coming up. It's coming up in the next four months. So I get it. I mean, for four months to do that – You know, you don't want to just wait four more months to get this just wrapped up and move on. I don't know. Adam, if you got some thoughts on this, we'll go.

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371.698 - 390.621 Adam

Yeah, nobody's surprised to see Trump beefing with Jerome Powell. We've covered this multiple times. I kind of said it's like an East Coast, West Coast rap beef. They're out there throwing threads. Biggie versus Tupac. You go, Biggie versus Tupac? This is more like Tupac versus Sade. So the reality is we shouldn't have Jerome Powell speaking.

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390.661 - 410.971 Adam

The Fed doesn't speak unless there's some major problems, usually, unless they're announcing some major announcement. You know, monetary policy via the Fed, they have two primary components. Setting the interest rate, which Trump is basically pissed about. Right now, the current Fed fund rate is around three and a half, three... Maybe four at the most.

410.991 - 435.595 Adam

The prime rate is around six and a half, seven. And the number two, unemployment. Unemployment is basically right where we need it to be, under 5%, I think around four, four and a half percent. As much as I give Trump credit, and I'm completely all in on the Trump MAGA 2.0 state of affairs in America, I don't like what he's doing with Powell. I think Powell has overall done a good job.

436.283 - 441.688 Adam

Could he lower interest rates? Yeah. Should he? Maybe. But he's not going to jail.

Chapter 4: How does political pressure affect the Federal Reserve's interest rate decisions?

441.808 - 452.358 Adam

He's not going to get in trouble. The worst that's going to happen to him is exactly what he's dealing with, Trump's pressure and intimidation, and he has four more months until he can go retire.

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