Send us a textTo learn more, please visit David de Jong's website.Show Notes:3:30 overview of Nazi Billionaires5:15 families included in Nazi Billionaires control companies like BMW and Porche whitewashing patriarchs’ legacies6:15 moral and historical reconstruction – acknowledging what’s transpired in history9:00 Quandt dynasty and BMW Group10:00 Flick dynasty and Daimler-Benz11:10: Von Finck and Allianz and Munich Re 11:45 Porsche-Piëch - Volkswagen, Porsche, Bentley 13:40 Oetkers - baking powder, cake mixes, Germany’s largest beer brewery, one of Europe’s largest sparkling wine manufacturers, luxury hotels14:00 Flick’s conviction of war crimes and post-war business success19:20 Flick released on good behavior and saw himself as wrongfully convicted20:30 Ferry Porsche’s autobiography We At Porsche22:30 Rosenberger’s post-war settlement with Porsche23:30 Porsche Sales & Marketing Representative Joachim Peiper’s death sentence commuted for the Malmedy Massacre of U.S. Army POWs24:45 English version of We At Porsche25:30 German version of We At Porsche26:00 Porsche AG spokesperson and head of Porsche Foundation Dr. Sebastian Rudolph 28:30 research for Nazi Billionaires for 4 years starting in 2017 29:00 archive availability and Fold 3 access30:30 German academic reporting of Nazi family histories32:00 breadth and depth of families’ collaboration with Third Reich33:00 Reimann family emerge in 2019 as Germany’s second wealthiest family 36:50 Reimann family’s Alfred Landecker Foundation 38:20 German family Bahlsen’s study expected summer 202339:20 ignorant remarks by Verena Bahlsen41:00 how current ignorance and historical distortion are related to overlooking war crimes41:50 dynasties’ lean on notion of collective guilt46:00 de Jong’s family experience 47:00 Artist Max van Dam49:30 his family experience makes him mindful of history 51:00 his motivation to get these stories out51:50 plans for a second book about dynasties that shaped the U.S. and the Netherlands 52:50 evolution of his definition of justice over the course of writing Nazi BillionairesPlease share your comments and/or questions at [email protected] by Toulme.To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]. Thanks so much for listening!© Stephanie Drawdy [2025]

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