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#3416 Summer House S10E20 Part Two: The Aftermath Ain’t Mathin’

17 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 19.617 Ben Mandelker

Crap! Crap! Crap! Crap! Crap! Crap! Crap! Crap! Crap!

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19.897 - 24.607

Crap! Well, hello, and welcome to Watch What Happens.

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24.787 - 37.903 Michael Rosenbaum

This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye, enjoy the show.

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38.904 - 47.014 Ben Mandelker

So now it's seven days later, and we go to Kyle's apartment, and here comes Wes, and Kyle's like, have you ever been here before? And Wes's like, um...

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47.197 - 64.446 Ben Mandelker

no he's like hey now i'm in here it's my first time i mean while the dog comes running up to west it's like oh my god west girl i love you i love you so much oh my god west i love you it's like rolling around on the floor let me take you to your favorite spot on the couch

67.345 - 77.514 Michael Rosenbaum

That was great. Kyle's like, clearly the dog knows you. He's like, um, barely know the dog. Wes is like trying to not pet the dog. The dog's like, come on, you love me. Don't you love, remember how you love petting my stomach?

77.874 - 79.996 Wes Wilson

Ah, pet me, pet me, pet me like you always do.

80.016 - 81.637 Michael Rosenbaum

He's like, I do not know this dog.

83.379 - 96.93 Ben Mandelker

Well, listen, this is awkward. It's almost a feeling I can't describe. Am I supposed to be supportive here? Am I supposed to punch you in the face and ask how could you? Like, I don't know. All I really needed to do was just put on a lover boy shirt because there's never a bad time to promote it. So.

Chapter 2: What happens in the aftermath of the Summer House reunion?

107.134 - 120.129 Michael Rosenbaum

I'm so fucking sick of Loverboy. Just shoot it in the head already. I'm sick of it. The whole next episode is full of fucking Loverboy. I'm tired of it. Let it go, Kyle. OK, treat it like your marriage and just let it swim away, please.

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122.011 - 126.597 Ben Mandelker

So Kyle's like, you know, I want you to know I don't have a game plan.

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Chapter 3: How does Kyle react to Wes's presence in his apartment?

126.661 - 139.492 Ben Mandelker

Sort of like with Loverboy itself. And I know you texted me weeks ago saying you wanted to chat. And I don't think I don't want you to think that like there's going to be like gotcha moments because I'm not Lindsay. I'm just I don't know how to do it. Yeah, right.

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139.572 - 161.358 Michael Rosenbaum

I've already played my I've already played my card. Well, exactly. Yeah, so Kyle's like, I really don't know. Which, this is a weird position to be in, you know? But it's also like, you don't need to just be Amanda's dad now. Because I think that that's the position he's chosen. He's like, well, I don't know what to say, so I'm just going to be Amanda's dad.

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161.518 - 169.83 Michael Rosenbaum

You better have good intentions for my daughter, sir. And it's just super weird. It's a weird stance to take.

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170.62 - 187.416 Ben Mandelker

Yeah, yeah. I feel like I would have liked... I would have liked someone there just a little harsher on West than Kyle. I mean, Kyle tried his best, but I wanted someone who could, like, crack the whip a little bit more. I don't know who that would have been. I don't know if there's anyone on the cast, aside from Lindsay, who really was qualified to do that.

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187.516 - 194.243 Ben Mandelker

Lindsay needs to only be Lindsay for everything. Bailey might have been able to, like a little baby Lindsay. Like, Bailey could have done some hard questions.

194.263 - 199.648 Michael Rosenbaum

She's too new, I think. But, you know, she's too new to the group. Bring in Paige.

200.827 - 226.615 Michael Rosenbaum

page page would blame it all on lindsey somehow page would find a way for it all to be lindsey's fault but kyle yeah kyle's not the right one because kyle whether or not he was married to amanda it's the fact that kyle is a guy who always needs forgiveness and he's always going to understand a douchebag guy he's always going to be able to say like i get where you're coming from can't really blame you i mean she's hot right go for it yeah it is really hot

226.983 - 246.235 Ben Mandelker

It's a little surprising that maybe they didn't bring in Carl. Like, it could have been, like, West meeting with the elders of the show. Like, here are the guys. I mean, they kind of say... like, you know, Lindsay, Kyle, um, and, uh, well, I guess Lindsay went on to Carl's podcast and was like, without even saying anything, when does it all happen? Like the three of us, like him together.

246.255 - 263.841 Ben Mandelker

And so like, you kind of would think there may have been a world where, where they have Carl there because Carl was pretty chippy at the reunion. And, uh, I think he might've brought some of that energy to maybe, uh, ask him the questions that Kyle wasn't thinking of in the moment. I don't know, but either way, um,

Chapter 4: What are the implications of Wes's relationship with Amanda?

375.213 - 378.558 Michael Rosenbaum

Love you, dog, when he was probably literally talking to the dog.

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378.618 - 381.663 Wes Wilson

The dog is like, oh, my God, I've kept that text. It's on the fridge.

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382.024 - 387.753 Michael Rosenbaum

I printed it out. It is on the fridge. I love you so much. Why do you smell like a Begum strip? Why? God, I love you.

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389.335 - 401.674 Ben Mandelker

Well, personally, I just kind of felt like so much of our life has been public that if we're going to have a conversation, we might as well film it. Because if a lover boy T-shirt falls in the forest and no one's there to watch it, it wasn't even being worn in the first place.

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Yeah.

403.968 - 411.016 Michael Rosenbaum

The biggest question I have to ask for you, are mock turtlenecks gay? Lover boy. Lover boy.

411.036 - 429.116 Ben Mandelker

So clearly Wes wanted this conversation off camera. And Kyle's like, no, we are going to extend this. So Wes is like, yeah, well, I just figured like, well, this is not going to make it into the final cut. But like my time on camera is over. you know, but this probably won't, this probably won't make it.

432.439 - 451.256 Ben Mandelker

So I guess he's already assuming he's not like, he's either gotten word that he's getting fired or he is just sensing it. But he's like, I think when people do a bad job at the reunion or in my experience, anything I've done following it publicly has just like landed poorly. And so I don't want you to think that I like waited until the reunion was over and then like gather myself.

451.276 - 455.98 Ben Mandelker

I was like, okay, let's film a scene together or kind of thing, you know?

Chapter 5: How does Kyle express his feelings about Amanda's situation?

526.034 - 540.753 Michael Rosenbaum

And I love that his big thing, like of all this friendship, it's like, remember when we played basketball in the pool? I can't believe I would fuck somebody over that like slam dunked. It was crazy. He's like, yeah, it sucks. Yeah. And he's like, there was a bond. Like we gelled, you know?

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540.773 - 563.035 Michael Rosenbaum

And like, I was like, whoa, look, if Wes is lying about this, lying about this, lying about this, like, where does that leave us? Like, I mean, it kind of puts people in an awkward spot, you know? But wow, it's like, yeah, because like clearly if I could go back, I would like clearly do things different, you know, like clearly. Would you?

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563.777 - 564.84 Ben Mandelker

You would not know.

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566.66 - 594.304 Ben Mandelker

you're not it's like i lied to sierra and i lied to me and i lied to lindsey and i lied to jesse and i mean like more like at the time by the way he doesn't even mention kj what about kj he's like i lied to everyone he's like mentioning like the the line producer and the craft service person he's like but i'm here today to obviously have like an honest conversation with you where i won't look at you the entire time i'm just gonna stare at that wall i was like i appreciate that you know look for me there's like the friendship of all

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594.52 - 619.093 Michael Rosenbaum

on one side and then there's like amanda and the fact that like no matter what i still care about her i still love there and she owes me a few more designs for some sweatshirts so let's not forget that okay yeah no um yeah no he and amanda are both yeah knowers that makes me fucking crazy yeah no no yeah yeah no yeah no do you like the color red yeah no

619.495 - 640.474 Michael Rosenbaum

no yeah yeah no do you like it or not what the fuck yeah no no yeah so he's like yeah i know i get that like but like do you want like full honesty even though it could be like hurtful like do you want that he's like yeah because like there's no reason to lie okay but i'll i'll do it anyway do it anyway

641.467 - 649.837 Ben Mandelker

You know what? Instead of honesty, why don't we just do a reading of The Sisters Rose and Swag? How about that? Of course. Of course you want honesty. Why would you ask that? Do you want honesty?

650.437 - 656.084 Michael Rosenbaum

No, I don't want honesty. I want you to sing your best Amy Grant song.

656.685 - 679.143 Ben Mandelker

Well, okay. So Kyle's like, look, like, you know, I convinced Amanda not to do the patios that she literally was about to hop on a plane. And I was like, you haven't watched the season. A, you haven't watched the season. B, we haven't even seen the reunion. How can you do this? Like, if you speak your truth in a moment, like, what are you doing it on? Like, I mean, like, I don't know.

Chapter 6: What dynamics are revealed between Wes and Sierra?

740.746 - 761.35 Ben Mandelker

Mm-hmm. So, Kyle's like, well... If I'm being honest, the amount of things that you did to kind of lure Sierra back in, like, sometimes it's, like, so blatant on screen. And, you know, like, it makes people like me and, like, the rest of the audience wonder, like, what are your intentions? Like, there are moments where it's, like, really long hugs, like, central touching and everything.

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761.791 - 780.201 Ben Mandelker

And Kyle's, like, making out, et cetera, et cetera. I loved all the flashbacks. And he's like, it doesn't take a genius to see that Sierra still has feelings for you. Like you're a very touchy guy. And then they show all these pictures of like Wes being touchy. By the way, we didn't mention that during the Amanda segment, there was one point where she's talking about finally being happy.

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780.301 - 797.483 Ben Mandelker

And there are these pictures of her just like, you know, she's like smiling and some of them. And there's like this one video where she's just like staring at the camera, like morosely. And then she like lifts her, her, she gets this faintest smile. It's like, Oh wow. Look at that. The euphoria it's coming off the screen. Yeah.

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797.743 - 815.865 Michael Rosenbaum

He's like, yeah, there's times I watch last summer and it makes me uncomfortable, like, without touching you or Amanda. He's like, mm-hmm. Yeah, knowing we were, like, full-on married and still trying to make it work. But, I mean, the same thing goes for Sierra, you know? I mean, you need to be aware of this. Like, you're just immediately kind of, like, inappropriate without touching you are.

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816.166 - 826.318 Michael Rosenbaum

He's like, mm-hmm. Yeah. He knows. He doesn't give a fuck. He's so touchy that it didn't even strike anybody as weird that he was holding hands with your wife at the dinner table.

826.737 - 851.395 Ben Mandelker

like yeah even us even the audience was like man he's just that's that's west it's like yeah um that's fair and like that was a learning lesson and um after summer ended um we did kiss twice and i think he's talking about sierra in this case he goes and i believe um we went to a giants game separately and then she asked for a ride to ride the bus home and then like she asked me for my address and like i didn't give it to her

851.594 - 865.823 Ben Mandelker

Like, on her birthday, I went and I wanted to be a good friend and then went on after. But then I was like, no, I'm going home. And, like, I know I have, like, fucked up and, like, I've not been perfect. But I think, like, you know, I was trying to do the right thing a handful of times.

867.49 - 895.135 Michael Rosenbaum

a handful of times he's like i could have he's like i could have fucked sierra so many times and i didn't okay is what he's really saying and he's also adding in there and she's a fucking stalker because then we went to you know then we she asked to ride the bus home and then she asked me for my address and i didn't give it to her really what is that suggesting like sierra asked me for my address and i said no well what are you implying that's so weird

895.992 - 918.414 Ben Mandelker

Yeah, but I just also love him trying to get all the credit in the world for doing what he calls the right thing a handful of times. It's like a police officer being like, hey, I stopped a handful of criminals, so I think I'm a pretty good police officer. It's like, what?

Chapter 7: How does Mia's involvement complicate the relationships?

990.56 - 990.76 Ben Mandelker

Yeah.

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991.707 - 1002.578 Michael Rosenbaum

I mean, I made tons of mistakes in my relationships, but I've never just full blown had a freaking secret girlfriend. I mean, my God, man, make out with a stranger at a bar like everybody else.

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1004.12 - 1016.432 Ben Mandelker

Like, I didn't even know you could do that. If I had known all this time, I mean, that would have been pretty awesome. So then I was like, yeah, well, that's crazy to me. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

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1016.851 - 1039.146 Michael Rosenbaum

okay well you're not you know you don't think you're seeing that i'm trying to get you to say i shouldn't have done that i should have told my friends i had a girlfriend yeah no yeah no get it i get it i totally get it uh-huh okay well it was me i was open-ended with her because like that's the part i don't get he's like no like like she was

1039.514 - 1061.194 Michael Rosenbaum

100% operating is, like, if we had, like, a full-blown relationship, but, like, exclusive, you know? But, like, I wasn't, and that's unfair. And that's, like, fucking shitty. And I definitely let her on. And, like, I do and did care about her. But it was very much, like, a relationship that wasn't a relationship.

1061.254 - 1068.981 Michael Rosenbaum

And I shouldn't have, like, been pretending it wasn't a relationship when it was a relationship that it wasn't a relationship. You know what I mean? Yeah.

1069.973 - 1084.236 Ben Mandelker

well, that's all I wanted you to admit at the reunion. Like, you led her to believe that you were in an exclusive relationship, and I've had a lot of exchanges with her, you know? And it's like, you wanted to have your cake and eat it too, and you kind of lied to all of us about your relationship status.

1084.486 - 1091.558 Ben Mandelker

By the way, that reminds me, I'm getting fucking wasted not having some cake on that counter. Yes, can't wait. Hell yeah.

Chapter 8: What are the consequences of Wes's actions on his friendships?

1272.143 - 1285.825 Michael Rosenbaum

I mean, it's nice, I guess, in a way. I guess I get that you would care for somebody that you've been with for so long, but oh, my God. I would just rather see you tell West off for yourself. Be like, what kind of fucking friend are you?

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1286.564 - 1306.932 Ben Mandelker

Yeah, I just want someone to directly ask him, why should anyone believe that you are going to be committed to Amanda when your entire storyline since you've been on Summer House is how you actually can't commit your entire first season was how you, every girlfriend you had, it gets to a certain point and then you back out of it. We saw you do it with Sierra.

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1306.952 - 1320.233 Ben Mandelker

We've seen you do it with other people. Why would we believe that this is any different? And just, especially cause just a few months ago, you said you don't even want to present like you could be a boyfriend. So that way you're going to cut it off at the past. So why would this be different? Why is this night different from any other night?

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1320.874 - 1328.946 Ben Mandelker

And no one's like, they're sort of like kind of asking it, but I want like a direct question. Like why should we even believe this? Right.

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1329.347 - 1329.447

Yeah.

1329.427 - 1348.408 Michael Rosenbaum

So they do. But West isn't really saying that she's the one or anything. It's not like he's saying, oh, we're going to go get married and have kids. I mean, he's hinted like so many different things that it's hard to ever pin down what he's really saying. But they can't where West is so good is that he's done this so many times that he knows how not to be pinned down.

1348.428 - 1367.07 Michael Rosenbaum

Like you can't you can't say like, well, how do I know this is real? Because all he'll say is, well, I don't. We're just dating. we're trying, we're trying. Yeah. Give it a chance. And his answer is like, well, yeah, I know. Like, I agree with you. Like that, like, this is a conversation that me and Amanda had many times, you know?

1367.171 - 1381.827 Michael Rosenbaum

And I was like, well, maybe like, should we just like date or something? And then there was only so many times that I can be told, no, like the answer is always the same, you know? And like, I mean, it looks bad. I get that. Like, I get it. But like,

1383.038 - 1401.303 Ben Mandelker

He's like, I can tell you that, like, my relationship with Amanda, this is, like, the first time it's ever come from, like, a steady, like, three-year friendship where, like, there's, like, nothing performative about it. Like, there's no one, like, trying to prove anything. Like, I know who she is and she knows who I am. I'm like, does she and do you?

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