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Chapter 1: What are the hosts' thoughts on the Slate truck's shipping potential?
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You know that vanilla is actually one of the more complex flavors. There's like 30-something flavor things that go into vanilla. That sounds like something vanilla would say. Big vanilla. Big vanilla wants you to believe. Yo, what's up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marques. I'm Andrew. And I'm David.
This week, we've got a bunch... Everyone's back. Oh, yeah, everyone's back. Let's go! Everyone is actually officially here. This is back to your regular, regularly scheduled programming. For real, for real. No cap. On God. Actually, our last episode, in case you missed it, was a bonus episode where we explained tech... Sorry, we explained the NBA in tech terms. I really schooled these guys.
But also kind of for some people, explain tech in NBA terms if you're up on ball and you wanted to know more about tech. That's right. By the end of it, we were just talking ball.
Yeah, basically. There's a great comment that's like, by the end of this video, I will either know about basketball or know nothing about technology.
Yeah. It was great. I highly suggest you check it out if you haven't already. But now we're back to regular scheduled programming, which means we can talk all the news. The Steam machine got a launch and a price, and we got a lot to say about that. Also, Meta launching cheaper sunglasses without the rebranding, and we got our first look at the $25,000 slate truck, which I have many thoughts on.
I also got to drive it, by the way. And the nothing phone 4B. So, yeah, we'll talk about it all. But first... Have you subscribed? See what I did there? Usually you expect me to go into the, did you even test it? But I just want to make sure everyone's subscribed.
If your subscribe button's red, right? What's it start out as? You should test it and see what happens.
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Chapter 2: What is the price and features of the Steam Machine?
All right. Okay, where should we start? Slate truck feels like a good place to jump in. Yeah, we can start with that.
Let's do it.
A $25,000 pixel truck. Less. A slate truck.
We're going to talk about a lot of prices. Lots of prices this episode.
Yeah, lots of prices. Actually, almost everything has to do with prices. Oof. So this one is weirdly actually also kind of polarizing. So I'll jump into what the slate truck is and then what's polarizing about it. So the slate truck, the idea of it is it's this ultra-modular electric...
mini pickup truck type of thing, where it comes as an ultra stripped down, super, super basic, like no power windows, no speakers, just basic truck cabin. And then you can add on the modules that you want to build it up to exactly how well equipped you want it to be. So the starting price of the blank slate, pun intended, is just south of $25,000 US.
That'll get you rear wheel drive, 65 kilowatt hour battery, 180-ish horsepower, and so it'll do 0-60 in like eight seconds or something, and then it'll get up to 90 miles an hour. I think it'll haul about 1,500 to 2,000 pounds. It'll tow 2,000 pounds. And it has a five-foot bed, five-foot long anyway, but it's narrower because it's a small truck. Who can sleep in a five-foot bed, damn?
Well, it's definitely not a bed bed. David, you once slept in a coffin. Yeah. True. Way longer. It's a five-foot long truck bed. It's a two-seater at the front, and it has a lockable front trunk. It's slate gray, no paint. You can wrap it with vinyl instead if you want to change the color. Steel wheels, 17-inch wheels, fixed suspension. I got to drive it.
It was fairly firm, but overall like pretty compliant. We did some rougher roads and it was going over bigger bumps and it was fine. So yeah, it was just like zippy little truck that is extremely minimally equipped and then tons and tons and tons of optional accessories that I haven't seen the price of all of them yet, but I've started to see prices of some of these accessories coming out.
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Chapter 3: How does the Steam Machine compare to traditional gaming consoles?
They're going to be somewhere like 160 miles of range or something. So 200 plus. But now they're not offering the 240. Yeah. Right. So they're all now down to one drivetrain option. Yeah. There's talks of like maybe an all-wheel drive version of the future. They wouldn't tell me that that's real. So it's just this one, just real wheel drive, 200 miles range. And it's actually pretty zippy.
I'm not going to lie. Really? I mean, you don't think about like zero to 60 in eight point seconds as a quote fast vehicle, but it's electric. It's all the torque all the time. And so you kind of zip around like a golf cart. It's fine. 205 miles seems kind of low. It is. It's also the cheapest truck in America. Yeah.
So it is like, okay, how much are you going to drive if you're doing the fleet thing? Are you driving around a neighborhood? Yeah. Do you put 200 miles on it in a day? Probably not. This would make sense for like my dad who's like a carpenter because he only really does work like- Locally. Locally. Yeah. Yeah.
Exactly. You're not road tripping with this. No. And like 200 miles in a day is- A pretty solid amount. I think most Europeans would be like, you guys are insane if you think you're driving $200,000.
You drove across the country? Most Europeans are like, what the hell is a mile? What's a truck? 300 kilometers. Lots of questions for these people.
I'm interested in the... Everyone's like, they did it. They did $25,000. They're responding to it. There's a comment on YouTube that said, massive respect for the team for the base price. They said, we said it, we meant it. Mm-hmm. It's something I'm intrigued to see where it goes because they haven't fully built the factory out to produce these yet, right? Yeah.
So we're a while away from seeing them.
Correct.
Prices are fluctuating all the time.
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Chapter 4: What are the pros and cons of the Steam Machine according to the hosts?
they don't have a factory well they have a factory that's almost they have a factory that has built the trucks that i've seen and driven but these are like finishing prototyping like almost done and when they start to roll them off in quarter four that'll be like final we'll see so they're tooling they're finishing building the factory and they have the space they just need to get over that hump and actually ship the thing so that's the tbd that's the big asterisk
There is a tweet here from Speed Sport Life, someone who's in the maker of the slate truck, who has seen basically some of the prices of the modules. So the wraps, for example, they start at $500 for a full vinyl wrap of certain like base colors. They'll go up to more expensive, like $1,500, $1,600 for a wrap. But that is just materials. You do the installation yourself. That's what...
We were trying to figure out why it felt cheap.
So then I go to the next page. There are the integrated speakers. So you can get the front left and front right for $150. And you can get the center channel for $250 more. So there are no speakers by default. There are no speakers by default. So, you know, 200 bucks. I mean, that's a big, expensive Bluetooth speaker. I guess that's about in line.
Does the wrap come with like a D brand kind of thing that you put over the car and just instantly rip it off? It is. Obviously, it'll be pre-cut. I imagine the hard part is actually installing it, like just getting it off the paper and like sticking it on the truck is, I mean, you can give it to a professional or you can do it yourself. Depends on how good of a job you want it to be.
Yeah.
uh it's a big task if you have to bring it to a professional already i would just bring it to a professional and get the wrap there and not deal with well they're going to charge you for the materials that they buy and the labor yeah but so if you provide the materials that's that's way less that you're paying i don't know the breakdown of what's materials versus labor but i always i assumed a wrap place most of that was labor
Probably most of it is labor, but you still do, they go out and acquire and source the materials for you. And so they have to upcharge you for that as well. So yeah, it's at least cheaper to, but I imagine a lot of people will try to do it themselves here. There's also a page here for the truck lining. You can get a more durable, versatile truck lining, $750 if you plan on... What is a lining?
It's like bed liner. Yeah, bed liner. One bed boss structural bed floor with integrated tie downs, installs without drilling, five feet by five feet. Yeah.
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Chapter 5: How does Valve justify the pricing of the Steam Machine?
I know I'm just missing something, but that sounds scary. There are latches.
Can I ask a question about this truck that I'm confused about? Go to Europe for two weeks and now we hate trucks.
Ellis has always hated trucks.
I also want to say when I was in Wales. one of the most beautiful places I've ever been in my life. Shocking amount of trucks. I had always heard that it was very hard to get. And none of them had like F-150 sized beds, but they had crew cabs and were sizable vehicles. And I was like, I was always told that these were not here. And there they were. Thank you, Wales.
How do you wire this truck in a factory? That's what I'm really confused about. Like, for example, so there's like, I understand the idea of power windows optional, right? Because those are motors that you have to put in and install. That's great. But is the wiring already going through the whole system? Or it's the same thing with the speakers.
I understand in theory that you could put in and take out speakers, but does the... Is there an amp? Are they active speakers? The amp is in the speakers and then you just run power to them. How does the audio signal get, is it wireless?
And it's like, part of it makes me wonder like if there are things in this car that are actually cheaper for them to put in because they have to already run the wiring all through the vehicle in the factory. Or there's obviously something I'm missing here. So I was told that there are pins and there is pre-existing wiring for power and data in certain places.
So for example, one of the speakers is a small JBL Bluetooth speaker. Right, I saw that. And all it needs is power. So it's already wired for power to the pins. And if you get that accessory, you pop it onto that pin. And then everything else for the speaker is in that speaker that you bought.
I think some other accessories are requiring pins that are, again, in certain locations that have data and power running to them already. Interesting. There is no screen option. There's just like the screen behind the steering wheel, which is your speed, your range, and your odometer and basic stuff, your reverse camera.
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Chapter 6: What is the significance of the new Meta Glasses announcement?
But now that it's a thing, you went and you saw the car, I feel like they might do it. They had that price up there in shiny numbers. They put lights on that price. They were like, it is definitely $25,000. We've seen that before.
I was going to say, I like trying not to be biased. I think it's really sick. I mean, I'm not going to go spend $25,000 on a secondary car. I ain't that kind of guy.
You've already got an R2 on order, right?
I think this is really cool. I'm going to be extremely skeptical of this because how many trucks have we seen that are coming out end of this year for the last five years?
Yeah, I feel like there's stages of how close to release are you? And we've seen lots and lots and lots of cool ideas. Everyone from Faraday Future to the Tello truck to the Aptera to this have all gotten to the stage of showing it to us and even letting us drive it. Yeah. And that's it. They never actually ship one and sell one. So my fingers are crossed. I like the idea.
I'm rooting for it, just like I'm rooting for a lot of the others. But it is true that we've seen many get this far and not make it. Having been through the 13 years of drama with my Streetly Manifesto album getting delayed.
I didn't bring it up this time.
These things are not out until they're out. So we'll see. Vaporware until shipped. Exactly. Didn't it come halfway out? Came halfway out yesterday. Halfway out. I thought it was only two songs. It's two more songs. They released three demos a year ago. They mixed the demos, finally. And then they released two more songs. So now there are five songs out, but it's half of the album. And it's half.
So it's not out unless it's out. It's not out until the whole album.
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Chapter 7: How do the Meta Glasses compare to previous models?
So that's more out than like the Roadster. It's like, yeah, for sure. It's more out than not out. For sure. Yes. But it's not full. And they're bangers to be clear. Only. Which gives you hope that the rest will be good. The rest is going to be a grace from God. Okay. I guarantee you.
Wow.
It's like playing, I don't know if there's a good analogy. It's like if the Roadster's seat came out. and you could buy it and sit in it. More than the seat. I would say... Didn't you say there's a... All four wheels. The car needs to work in order to drive it, whereas half of a Streetlight Manifesto album is still part of a Streetlight Manifesto album.
It would be like if the Roadster came out, but it only had a fraction of the battery. Yes. And one of the motors worked. Isn't that how... That's a good analogy. And it could only turn right. Yes. That's how I feel right now. It's still great. I'm still happy. Yeah. But it's not out until it's fully out. Because it's planning albums in tech terms. In cartoons.
It's been delayed for 13 years, Marques.
Is it their conspiracy that it's going to be on the GTA 6 radio so it can't come out until GTA 6 comes out? Exactly.
It won't be out until November.
Speaking of GTA.
Speaking of GTA. We got a price. Yeah. $80, which is less... There have been a lot of bets, by the way, on whether or not GTA would be over $100 because they've been working on it for so long that... Gamers can't afford this. Yeah. I'm sorry. If you're a gamer, you cannot afford this. I'm sorry. Um... Anyway, there's a deluxe edition that's $100. Okay. What is it?
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Chapter 8: What are the trivia highlights discussed at the end of the episode?
Yeah, I'm going to play it. Oh, wow. It seems like a fun game. We need your review.
Only from trailers. Only from trailers. Wait. You do know you could play the other ones while you wait. Yeah, that's true.
GTA V can play on your freaking refrigerator. Yeah, GTA V's been out for so long, but it's almost like backyard baseball where it's like, if I start getting my fix now, I'm going to be waiting for GTA even more on the seat of my pants, so I'm just going to wait. I'm just going to not play GTA until 6 comes out and then have a good time. That's right. It'll be fun.
I'm excited for it because when the first one came out, my now brother-in-law played it for so long that his... He was in college and his car got stolen, but he didn't know it was stolen because he was playing the game for like three days straight. And then went out and was like, where's my car? He got Grand Theft Auto? He got Grand Theft Auto.
So now I want to see if this is going to be a pattern. If somehow it will get stolen again.
Your Grand Theft Auto. Your Grand Theft Auto. There are many people trying to take like an entire week off work for this game. Wow. Yeah. I can confirm, according to this article from Radio Times, the Reddit comment was correct. About what? There will be certain things that are locked away, unless you get the Ultimate Edition, like certain locations in-game. Locations?
Vehicle mod shops, classic car collections, certain vehicles. I think they wanted to charge $100, but they were like, we can make it technically not $100. This is freaking Grand Theft Fortnite over here.
My thing is, I don't care about visual skins costing extra money when the game's free. Fortnite is free. Let them charge for things that are not competitive advantage. Dota, League of Legends, Valorant. If you charge $80 and then you're like, you have to pay more money for skins?
Or locations. Like your friends go to a new location and you can't go because you bought the base version. Oh.
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