(BEST OF) CHER: Life Advice We’ll Never Forget

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Glennon Doyle 0:00
Welcome back to We Can Do Hard Things. Okay, pod squad. Today what we're doing is if we could turn back time if we could. We would revisit the time. That chair was here. Share.
Unknown 0:18
I know.
Glennon Doyle 0:19
I still don't know how I kept it together during this conversation. And if you make it through the first minute of this episode, I'd personally like to thank you for enduring my first rendition of if I could turn back time. And my second one. I regret nothing. Here's the thing. We all knew share the icon, share the legend, share the Oscar winner, share the voice, share the hair, share. But after spending an hour with her, I walked away thinking something completely different. What I love most about Cher isn't that she's extraordinary. It's that she was just relentlessly human. Publicly, she told us the truth about what really happened behind the Sunny and Cher story. She talked openly about emotionally abusive relationships, the moment she realized she didn't have to stay, and the life changing advice Lucille Ball gave her.
Glennon Doyle 1:11
That she later passed on to Tina Turner. She shared with deep honesty the Her regrets about how she responded when Chaz came out. Not because she wasn't loving. But because she was scared for her child in a world that can be so cruel. And she reminded us that getting it wrong at first doesn't mean you can't keep growing into the parent and the person you want to be. And somewhere in the middle of it all, she gave us one of my new favorite life metaphors. Life, she said, is like driving a bumper car. You hit a wall, you back up, you turn, and you keep going. That's Cher. She never expected life to be smooth. She just kept going. Looking back on this conversation, I'm even more grateful for it. We laughed. We cried.
Glennon Doyle 1:57
completely lost our cool and I have a feeling you're gonna love this conversation even more this time around. Let's go.
Glennon Doyle 2:12
Pod squad. If I could reach the stars. I'd give them all to you.
Unknown 2:22
I don't think we should go there. I think we should just introduce the guests.
Amanda Prestigiacomo 2:25
I think we've gone there, Abby. And I don't think there's a damn thing you can do about it. I know, but it's
Glennon Doyle 2:29
like kind of Pod squad, we're a little amped up because we just spent the last hour with Cher. Okay, with share. Share is on the podcast today. And The first amazing news is that Cher is on the podcast. The second amazing news is that Cher was so warm. Yeah. So wonderful. Cher helped us solve all of our life problems. Just the whole thing is so beautiful.
Amanda Prestigiacomo 3:00
She's a joyful, beautiful person.
Glennon Doyle 3:02
She is. And I just I loved her before this interview and afterwards. I love her even more. And you will too. And I actually think. that this conversation's gonna help.
Unknown 3:12
Get ready. The one the only
Abby Wambach 3:17
we give you share. The icon. Let's go. Can you hear me? I think we can hear you.
Cher 3:25
Okay, here I am.
Glennon Doyle 3:27
Share. Your share.
Cher 3:30
Yes, I
Glennon Doyle 3:31
am.

What advice did Lucille Ball give Cher about leaving Sonny and how did she pass it on to Tina Turner?

Glennon Doyle 3:32
Abby.
Abby Wambach 3:33
I'm Abby.
Glennon Doyle 3:33
And that's my sister Amanda. Hi. Hello. And I'm Glennon, and I'm gonna be cool. I'm gonna be cool. Share, we love you. We have you.
Cher 3:44
Wait, we're all gonna be cool then. Okay.
Amanda Prestigiacomo 3:46
I can't promise to be cool. I am rarely cool.
Cher 3:49
Okay. I'll be cool.
Amanda Prestigiacomo 3:50
We love you. We'll just start with that.
Glennon Doyle 3:52
Thank
Cher 3:52
you.
Glennon Doyle 3:52
All
Cher 3:53
right. Well, that's
Glennon Doyle 3:53
a good start. Okay. I like that. I know you haven't heard that often. That's a new thing for you to hear. Your book I absolutely loved. I started and didn't stop. Abby came up to me and said, How is it? What are you thinking? And I just thought, We know share the icon, we know share the Oscar winner, we know share the singer, we know you, but this is so personal. The book is so personal and it was such it's such a gift to learn about you as a person. And I said to Abby, I just wish I could sit with her for an hour and ask her advice. And Abby said, Well, don't we get to sit with her for an hour? You can ask her advice. And I thought, Oh my God. Oh my God.
Cher 4:33
I have to tell you too. I had to write that thing again. It was three times. And it was just, it was such a bitch. I cannot tell you because it's hard. First of all, it's hard telling things you don't really want to tell. And then it's hard trying to Get things in your own voice and be very careful.

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