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We Mean Well

#338 - With Cody Simpson

14 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: Who is Cody Simpson and what are his latest projects?

0.031 - 17.117 Louise Adal Din

it is wednesday my dudes hello bedwetters and welcome back to the we mean well podcast hosted by louise adal din and jack archdale strap yourselves in for what will be a truly insightful and life-changing experience Okay.

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17.137 - 25.489 Jack Archdale

I think this might be, Jack, the biggest star we've ever had in the podcast studio. Oh, stop. Easily, Cody. No, easily. We've got Cody Simpson in here.

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25.67 - 27.592 Cody Simpson

Stop. How are you, mate? I'm so good. How are you guys?

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27.613 - 28.394 Unknown

Very, very well.

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28.614 - 41.675 Jack Archdale

Now, can I say, I thought your accent would have been more Australian, but we're just saying it's very... Don't scare me. Fucking straight away. No, it's very a mix of Aussie-American. Okay. Because you've been there a while now.

41.755 - 44.019 Cody Simpson

Now I'm going to be talking like this the whole time.

44.119 - 45.02 Jack Archdale

Yeah. G'day, mate.

45.201 - 47.124 Cody Simpson

How are you, copper? So fucking good.

47.144 - 51.952 Jack Archdale

Are you guys wearing this one? Of course. Oh, that's all we do. We'll be reining it in for you. I thought so.

Chapter 2: What challenges did Cody face when returning to music?

99.357 - 108.03 Cody Simpson

the way people were responding to it was like, I, I hoped that that's how it would go, but it's like, nice. You do it. And then it does go that way.

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108.07 - 110.253 Jack Archdale

A hundred percent. I was one of them.

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110.493 - 120.288 Cody Simpson

Suspicions. You know, people are going to like, yeah. And yeah, it was, it was cool to, to see that. Happened that way. I don't know.

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120.829 - 126.198 Unknown

Was there any trepidation going back in the music at all after, what was it, a six year hiatus?

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126.218 - 151.555 Cody Simpson

No, it was an excitement. It was like a joy. It was a real like state of play, feeling like a kid, excited to be back doing it back in LA where I, where it all started for me, like where I, you know, half grew up and just, and, and, and to kind of go back because I really wanted to and was excited to. And I think that, that I wanted to capture that joy and,

151.72 - 160.854 Cody Simpson

And I think that the where I'm at in my life is really reflected in the way the music sounds, which is like the feeling I wanted to get across.

160.954 - 176.697 Jack Archdale

Yeah. Well, they're unbelievable. They're like I would get ready to it putting on makeup, even driving in the car. Like they're proper bangers. Yeah, thank you. Because you would have started when you were like 13 or 14. Yeah. And then you took a pretty long break. Yeah. Because you opened for Biebs when you were like 13.

176.897 - 182.102 Cody Simpson

Yeah. We did the Australian tour last year. I was, yeah, I was 15 maybe. Wow.

182.122 - 184.366 Unknown

Also, I'm fucking calling bullshit on the American accent.

Chapter 3: How does Cody balance swimming and music careers?

259.103 - 259.464 Jack Archdale

Seven.

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259.604 - 260.245 Cody Simpson

Seven.

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260.265 - 260.807 Jack Archdale

Seven years.

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262.61 - 266.138 Cody Simpson

I sound just like you guys. I love it. Kiwi accent is one of my favourites in the world.

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266.298 - 267.641 Unknown

It's a good one. Okay, that's good.

267.661 - 269.926 Cody Simpson

It is a good one. Kiwi and South African.

270.868 - 270.928

Mm.

270.908 - 273.111 Cody Simpson

Two of my favourite. I love listening to them.

273.131 - 292.033 Unknown

Mate, I think they're great as well. I had a mate to that point you were saying where people go overseas, they're there for a bit shorter and they come back with an accent. He went over to South Africa for three months. It was a school exchange. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he left. He's a little country boy and he came back. You know, he's like, see you boys. I'll see you later. And he came back.

Chapter 4: What is the inspiration behind Cody's song 'Baby Blue'?

497.731 - 512.386 Cody Simpson

I was like, sign a record deal, move in LA, you know? They're like, what the hell? And then the next time I come back, like, We shut down Wet n Wild to like shoot the video. Brother. And I invited my whole. I invited like 30 of my school friends.

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512.547 - 515.774 Jack Archdale

Oh, they would have loved you. I would have loved that even now they'd be fine.

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515.794 - 524.374 Cody Simpson

To shoot this music video. And I'm like, do you guys all want to be in my video? You don't have to do anything. We just shut down the water park. You just have to ride rides all day and they're going to film it. They're like, no, I've got sock washing to do.

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524.835 - 526.499 Unknown

I'm all good. Thanks, mate. I got English.

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526.579 - 528.783 Cody Simpson

No thanks. Like what is going on, you know?

529.124 - 534.074 Unknown

Yeah. Where did you grow up? Did you grow up Queensland around the Gold Coast? Gold Coast, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

534.094 - 541.91 Jack Archdale

Gotcha. Are you back there now? Because I keep seeing you on a balcony with lots of trees. That sounds like I'm watching you from afar with binoculars.

542.211 - 543.814 Cody Simpson

That's exactly what it sounds like, Louisa.

543.794 - 545.257 Jack Archdale

I saw it on your story.

Chapter 5: How does Cody describe his songwriting process?

709.152 - 725.217 Cody Simpson

I swung everything into it. Like sat down and backtracked on the, you know, like every, every decision, you know, was like, was towards it and, and in absolute favor of, of putting myself in the best possible position. And at the end, and then after that, it's just like how the dice roll on the day. Yeah.

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725.237 - 745.042 Cody Simpson

And so if, if, if there's nothing else you can do, it's like, you know, and I feel like I got what I wanted to, I proved to myself what I, I was capable of in the pool and gave myself a four-year window to do it and I did it in that window. And so after that I was like, there's nothing else I'm going to get out of this if I do this for another four years.

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745.082 - 749.587 Cody Simpson

I think I'm going to – and I was really excited to go back and do this again.

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749.607 - 769.412 Unknown

100%. Well, mate, I don't know if you – I don't want to compare co-ops here. If you look behind you, mate. See that Walker Show Society champion ribbon? Oh, yeah. What is this? I got that this year for the floral arranging back at my hometown of 1,800 people. Are you a florist? Turns out I am.

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769.652 - 771.594 Jack Archdale

Well, no. Man of many layers. I think it was rigged.

771.614 - 774.038 Cody Simpson

We can all talk about coming with games.

774.959 - 775.92 Jack Archdale

I think it was rigged.

776.241 - 784.736 Cody Simpson

I'd argue you don't look like a florist. That's exactly right. Keep them guessing. Yeah, exactly, right? Keep them guessing, mate. There's layers to this. There's layers to it.

784.916 - 806.444 Jack Archdale

On this podcast, you can see that there, karaoke behind us, that beautiful backdrop. So I dress up as different artists and perform their song. I said to Viola, I said, should I dress up as Cody and do a karaoke for him? And she said, we don't want to scare him off, mate. So I did.

Chapter 6: What was Cody's experience working with Flo Rida?

1053.39 - 1066.21 Cody Simpson

And I'll record the entire song. As gibberish. And sort of be... Just such the melody? Sometimes I'll get to the end of the day and it'll have been, you know, six hours and I'm kind of burnt and I've got the whole song where there's no lyrics.

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1067.232 - 1072.422 Cody Simpson

And the whole thing is just like, this didn't happen for Baby Blue, but like, for example, it would have just been like I was humming.

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1072.642 - 1073.063 Unknown

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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1073.083 - 1076.43 Cody Simpson

It'd be a version where like there was no lyric. It's just... A gibberish.

1076.47 - 1081.678 Jack Archdale

Release that for people who are terrible at remembering lyrics. Idea for the next single.

1081.999 - 1083.321 Unknown

Just call it gibberish.

1083.681 - 1090.853 Cody Simpson

And then you go, what does this feel like to me? What should it be about? Yeah. You know, and that's how a lot of it happens for me.

1091.153 - 1094.479 Jack Archdale

Was Baby Billy the first one you wrote when you came back?

Chapter 7: How does Cody handle public perception and criticism?

1488.894 - 1501.902 Cody Simpson

People… I think I know what you, I don't want to interject. Your potential is like a road and people like reach varying points along that road. And that's through circumstance, luck. Exactly.

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1502.022 - 1509.13 Unknown

You know, fucking geographical position, talent. For sure. There's so many factors that can determine how far you reach of your potential, I think.

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1509.27 - 1534.343 Cody Simpson

No, totally. And a lot of it is like work too and just compounding work and momentum and like, You know, the hardest thing to do is get the car moving. Yeah. You know, but like once you do, like it's easier to keep it, you know, and add more fuel to it and go, you know. And so like I just find I got to get the car moving and work and the harder I work, the luckier I get kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah.

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1534.323 - 1540.332 Cody Simpson

I want to try and get every drop out of me. Okay.

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1541.233 - 1544.258 Jack Archdale

I see where this is going.

1544.338 - 1549.325 Cody Simpson

I want to ring every drop out of the towel before I'm gone. Way better.

1549.345 - 1550.747 Unknown

That was very way better.

1551.308 - 1555.735 Jack Archdale

That's usually how we're talking. We're trying to be wise and mature here.

1555.755 - 1557.057 Unknown

I was like, I think Lou does as well.

Chapter 8: What life lessons has Cody learned from his journey?

1794.192 - 1795.995 Unknown

I pee in the shower even if I'm not showering.

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1796.015 - 1798.159 Jack Archdale

Yeah. What about I'm going broken?

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1798.179 - 1799.1 Unknown

Just passing outside.

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1800.342 - 1804.95 Jack Archdale

Yeah. Peeing in the bath, that's got to be a green. I mean a red. While you're in it still?

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1804.97 - 1820.574 Unknown

Yeah, because then you're bathing in your own pants. Oh, red. It depends on if it's. You do it. Ladies and gentlemen, if you'll allow me. It depends. If you'll allow me. If it's one of those ocean baths, you know what I mean? What bath are we talking about?

1820.594 - 1821.355 Jack Archdale

No, your own bath.

1821.375 - 1822.997 Cody Simpson

Like a bathtub in your house.

1823.678 - 1825.96 Unknown

How big's the bathtub?

1825.98 - 1827.923 Jack Archdale

Okay, what about the Olympic pool?

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