The Conversations That Could Save Lives: We’re Talking Suicide Prevention

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Previously titled “The Conversations That Could Save A Life: We’re Talking Suicide Prevention” — renamed by the publisher on Sep 10, 2026

We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson 26 min 1 speaker 3 chapters transcribed 19 hours ago
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What early bullying experiences shaped Nadiya’s sense of identity?

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Paul C. Brunson 0:26
Welcome to We're Talking. In this episode, I sit down with Nadia Hussein and Tyler West for an incredibly honest conversation about the experiences we carry from childhood, how they can shape us as adults, and what happens when we keep them to ourselves. This episode includes discussions of suicidal thoughts and mental health struggles. Please watch with care.
Paul C. Brunson 1:02
What are some of those other incidents that happened while you were a little girl at school? 'Cause 'cause there's there there there's many that you've talked about.
Nadiya Hussain 1:09
Yeah, um, I was really badly bullied at school from the age of Four to about seventeen, eighteen. So this is the same thing. And I never told anyone about that. Um, they would do they would flush my head down the toilet. Um, they would expose themselves to me. They um they have tried to s um they have tried to sexually assault me whilst I'm in the st while I was in the street. They have um held me down and smashed my fingers into hinges of doors. Uh they have ripped my hair they'd ripped my hair out. Like it was every single day from the age of about five four or five to about seventeen or eighteen. Every day.
Paul C. Brunson 2:01
Every day.
Nadiya Hussain 2:02
Yeah. I I I even went to a g all girls school, but they were next door in the all boys' school. So they would wait for me to come out. So it could it's almost like they got their fix. Um And The reason why they bullied me was because I was the I had the darkest skin in school. They were Very fair, rosy cheeked Pakistani boys. So they're pretty much w you know, they've same sort of culture as me.

How did Nadiya’s childhood trauma affect her mental health and trust in others?

Nadiya Hussain 2:32
But they were bright white with rosy pink cheeks and dark black hair and that's what our community celebrated. Fair skin. Men Perfect, tick tick, they're perfect. And there I was. Show dark skinned girl with really big curly hair and they just they they just that's that was their that was the thing and they they bullied me every single day. Every single day.
Paul C. Brunson 2:59
So th this is one where uh there were some incidents that happened uh f for me when I was a child but sparingly.
Nadiya Hussain 3:07
Okay, yeah.
Paul C. Brunson 3:08
And what's interesting for me is it's not until I've started having these conversations here, uh, with We Need to Talk where I've begun to contemplate on how those incidents have shaped who I've become today. You had This is severe trauma that's happened for an extended period of time in your adolescence when you're trying to figure out who you are and what your identity is. So how do you think that impacted How you saw yourself as a little girl.
Nadiya Hussain 3:44
I think it's made me really, really um protective of my feelings and it's made me really insular. I think it's made me not trust people, 'cause I don't trust people easily. Um But it's also made me a people pleaser, I think. I'm v I I just want to make everyone happy. Because I don't want Like I don't want negativity and I just want like people pleasing all the time. It's like as long as everyone's happy, as long as everyone's happy. But that's probably partly to do with the fact that You know, I grew up in quite a volatile home. You know, my parents always argued. I just wanted everyone to always be happy. We didn't talk about anything bad, it was just always be happy. But it's yeah, it's also made me really strong.
Nadiya Hussain 4:38
It's also made me r a really good mum.
Paul C. Brunson 4:41
Okay. But as a little girl,
Nadiya Hussain 4:43
yeah.
Paul C. Brunson 4:43
How do you think it impacted you?
Nadiya Hussain 4:46
It got so bad. That one eve one one afternoon I remember my cousin they were a little bit older than I was and we were watching a film, clearly not my not for me, 'cause it was like an eighteen or something. And somebody'd committed suicide. And I was like, Oh, so that's it. So if you commit suicide, you're just dead and everything else just stops.

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