Overwhelmed by Debt? Uncover What's Really Keeping You from Retirement

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Previously titled “Ep 162 | Overwhelmed by Debt? Uncover What's Really Keeping You from Retirement” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 2, 2026

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Am I right to think I can't plan for retirement until all my debt is paid off?

Dalene Higgins 0:00
Are you telling yourself, I can't even think about retirement until my debt is gone? Credit cards, a mortgage, maybe a HELOC, they all feel like barriers, right? But here's the truth. The problem isn't the debt itself. It's the cycle that keeps you from feeling stable enough to plan for retirement. Today's episode, we're going to talk about what's really standing between you and retirement and how to start finding peace with your debt and your future. Hey there and welcome to Wealthy After 40. I'm Dailene Higgins, your podcast host and financial coach. If you're a Gen X woman or couple who's worried about retirement, maybe you feel like you're starting late or don't have enough saved. you're in the right place.
Dalene Higgins 0:53
This show is all about ditching the financial stress and creating a retirement plan that works for your life now and later. So grab your favorite drink, settle in, and let's figure this out together. Welcome to the Wealthy After 40 podcast, where I help you enjoy your money now and later. I also help you find solutions of managing that money for now and later, which we are specifically talking about in today's episode.

What does the host mean by the debt cycle being the real problem?

Dalene Higgins 1:31
So whether you have credit cards, mortgage, HELOC, student loans, whatever else I may or may not have mentioned, whatever shape of debt you have, it might be a hindrance to retirement. But if you are thinking, I'm too overwhelmed by debt to even think about retirement, that is your obstacle, your challenge to reaching retirement. We all have debt in one way, shape, or form. Some of us have a lot. Some of us have a little. You know, there's a whole bunch of different scenarios and circumstances that I could talk about. But you believing you can't retire because of the debt you have may or may not be true. So I want to ask you a question to start deciphering what debt problem you feel is what that actual challenge is and why you can't think about retirement.
Dalene Higgins 2:38
So the first question is, do you need to have all of your debt paid off before retirement? I'm going to quickly answer this, no. And if you said yes, I want you to hang on to that for a minute. The better question you should be asking yourself, and I am going to ask you, Do you want to pay off all of your debt before retirement? This is for you to decide. This is your yes or no. Do you want to pay off all of your debt before retirement? I've heard countless people have different ideas, varying ideas, really especially with a mortgage. Some feel like they have to have it paid off before retirement. Some people do not. And that is okay. It is for you, for that person to decide. So to better understand if debt should go with you or not, you really need to dive into what is your relationship with debt?
Dalene Higgins 3:45
How does that feel? So the individual I know who is like, I will never pay off my mortgage, she had different means to an end. She had a different purpose. The other individual who said my mortgage has to be paid off before I retire just didn't want that demand of debt in retirement. This is what you need to decide. This is what's very important. However, at this age, well into our 40s, if you are there, it is important to balance the now and later specifically with debt. You cannot ignore retirement because you feel like you have too much debt. You really need to find what will work best for getting you to retirement and how much debt to go with you. It's a balance. Now and later, this is crucial. You cannot ignore retirement at this age.
Dalene Higgins 4:46
Now, I know debt is a huge concern. It's a huge concern of many. And debt is a concern because you can't seem to stop the accumulation. You get the balance on your credit cards paid down, only finding yourself to using those credit cards to cover this, that, or the other. This structure, this flow, down and up, down and up, has you believing that you don't have the ability to retire. And so immediately you're thinking the solution is to pay off the debt first before I can plan for retirement. And I've already told you at this age, that is not an option. What I'm going to tell you in that scenario, debt isn't the problem.

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