S3 EP16: Jonathan Wilson
episode
What Did You Do Yesterday? with Max Rushden & David O'Doherty
1h 8m
3 speakers
8 chapters
transcribed 3 months ago
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What unique perspective does Jonathan Wilson bring to football journalism?
Podcasts, there are millions of them. Some might say too many. I have one already. I don't have any, because there are enough.
Politics, business, sport, you name it, there's a podcast about it, and they all ask the big questions and cover the hot topics of the day.
But nobody is covering the most important topic of all. Why is that? Are they scared? Too afraid of being censored by the man? No.
Possibly, but not us. We're here to ask the only question that matters. We try and say it at the same time, Max. What did you do yesterday? What did you do yesterday? What did you do yesterday? That's it. All we're interested in is what the guests got up to yesterday. Nothing more.
Day before yesterday, Max? Nope. The greatest and most interesting day of your life?
Unless it was yesterday, we don't want to know about it. I'm Max Rushton.
And I'm David O'Doherty.
Welcome to What Did You Do Yesterday? Hello and welcome to What Did You Do Yesterday? My name's Max Rushton. Alongside me, for life, David O'Doherty.
A Max booking. Yes, here we go. In the past, some of Max's bookings have been some of our loosest units, let's just say, from a what did you do yesterday point of view. There's no judgment there. It's just been highly unpredictable days. But now, this is one I've wanted for a while, Max.
You have. And actually, this is the first booking where I've booked someone I actually know.
LAUGHTER
So today's guest is Jonathan Wilson, who is now, I don't really want to praise him at all, but he is one of the most renowned football writers in the world. Probably wrote the seminal book on football tactics called Inverting the Pyramid that even like Ted Lasso is seen reading it in the trailer. The amount of messages we got about that. We're just like, are you serious? And we were all like, we were all like, that looks shit.
It turns out she's quite good. We don't want to put people off.
How does Jonathan Wilson prepare for a press conference?
We have just recorded the episode.
Yeah, yeah, for the tape.
Where are I to say he's also written a book on the history of Hungarian football? I could see a lot of people being, well, maybe I'll just listen to an old off menu instead of this. But let me tell you... This is one that's well worth listening to. He's got a new book out.
Guy never stops writing books. He writes books all the time. And the running joke on Football Weekly is that we haven't read any of them. But we should sell this one. This one is a good one.
This is awful. The way you're talking about his beautiful books that are beloved is like he's cranking out romance novels. He spends years researching. In this case, the history of the World Cup.
He's in the catacombs of Hungary. You know, like he's doing proper research. And I'm just trying to write 900 words every fortnight on like a game of football I played in 2010. And he's actually doing proper work for these books. Yes. What's it called? The Power and the Glory. The History of the World Cup. And it is out now.
Yeah, it's just out and it's out in America next month, I guess for Christmas. We've got him on an extraordinary, fascinating day.
There are so many firsts in this episode. Yeah. I think we're trying too hard to sell it. It's good.
The podcast is good.
It doesn't matter who the guest is. Whatever we do, the podcast is good. It's interesting. And actually, for once, it's not one of your mates banging on about their craft.
It's one of my mates banging on about his craft. This is what Jonathan Wilson did yesterday.
Jonathan Wilson, welcome to What Did You Do Yesterday? Oh, thank you very much. It's a great pleasure and honour to be here. It's lovely to meet you. I know you and David go back a long, long time. In a way, it's nice to do a podcast with someone I haven't met because I won't know anything about you. I've got no expectations going to this episode.
What challenges does Jonathan face while traveling for football coverage?
With this in mind, hang on, Max, have you done a podcast with Jonathan yesterday? Because that would be the first time that's happened where we've broken the prime directive and one of us has tried to influence the yesterday of the guest.
Well, interestingly, the reason why I felt today was better than doing it on Thursday, which was your preferable day, David, without going into the weeds of our WhatsApp group, we would have done one because Jonathan and I are doing one tomorrow.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What unique perspective does Jonathan Wilson bring to football journalism?
0:02–2:08
2
How does Jonathan Wilson prepare for a press conference?
2:08–4:15
3
What challenges does Jonathan face while traveling for football coverage?
4:15–7:03
4
What interesting anecdotes does Jonathan share about his experiences?
7:03–10:16
5
How does Jonathan describe the Northern Lights experience?
10:16–13:23
6
What is Jonathan's opinion on the current state of football journalism?
13:23–15:39
7
How does Jonathan balance personal life and professional commitments?
15:39–19:39
8
What insights does Jonathan provide about the World Cup's history?
19:39–1:08:44