Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello, it's the American Nightmare, Cody Rhodes. Welcome to What Do You Want to Talk About? We are at the lovely WWE warehouse. This What Do You Want to Talk About? is a WWE and Fanatics original production. Incredibly excited about our guest today. We have wanted him on the podcast for quite some time.
He is incredibly busy, and there's been a lot of, oh, maybe, hey, it could be this, and maybe it's going to happen here, and then I've been told he's coming, and then no, he didn't, and finally we have him. So we're not going to waste our time because this one's a very special one for a myriad of reasons.
And I could go on with this introduction because I have often waxed poetic about what he has contributed to the overall wrestling economy and atmosphere, not just WWE. Someone that many of us owe a great debt to. Again, we're talking about the inaugural WWE Universal Champion, a former United States champion, Intercontinental champion, a two-time NXT champion, all these things.
The founding father, the one, don't give anybody else any credit, for the Bullet Club, and currently Judgment Day staple member, just the absolute dude, the guy. Please welcome, what do you want to talk about? Finn Balor.
Finn Balor. How are you, man?
You're here. Yeah. Finally. I feel like you're going to be like, all right, thank you, and then leave. Can't get out of here.
Well, I do have a heart out in about an hour.
Yeah.
This is the third attempt we've tried to do this.
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Chapter 2: What insights does Finn Bálor share about the founding of the Bullet Club?
OTT had built up many of in-house stars and had a true program. They were doing business with the local and with people they'd homegrown. We were just a little sizzle on the plate. And that night, one of your... contemporaries and peers and someone that you've been a mentor for and someone who you've kind of brought to the fold, that being JD McDonough, was set to have his big night.
And I'll just say I went long. Was it against Walter Neogunter? I don't think it was against Walter.
No, okay.
Because I feel like Walter might have been the one to tell me, hey, don't go 18 extra minutes or whatever it is. Having people at the time, I was having them kiss the ring. because it was a ring thing, they'd get all into it, and it was very, like, you'd tee it up, and they'd do it. So it took an excessive amount of time.
Whatever, public transportation runs differently in the United States than it does in Ireland. And I made the mistake of going incredibly over to where, when he won the championship and had his big moment, a lot of people had left, because they had to leave.
Yeah, like, I think it was a Sunday night, and, like, last bus is, like, 10.30. Yeah. And people use public transport in Ireland. They don't drive places.
They don't... And I was still in the ring at like 10.15. So I didn't know until later. There's a whole online snafu. We're not going to cover it all here, but that's my brief apology to OTT, which I will consistently apologize. But it's a great company.
It's a great company. Yeah. And a great bunch of guys, and they're doing great business, and it's... I was super lucky to get the opportunity to work there. Last December, they brought me and JD over to work against two of the guys out there, and it was such a fun night. One of the most memorable nights of my career.
How was the ring?
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Chapter 3: How did Finn Bálor's experiences in NXT influence his wrestling career?
Okay.
All right, well. Oh, wow. But we kept DMing, like, for, like, another month or two. Like, we were DMing, like, every day, back and forth. And then I finally, like, said, hey, come on, like, give me the number. Give me the digits. Yeah. We got to take this to the next level. And, yeah, we never looked back. That was it. Did you ever get an answer? Was there a gamesmanship in this saying?
No, she just said, like, I live in Mexico, you live in America, you're a wrestler, I work in TV, it's never going to work. Oh, she just gave up on it before it even started. Yeah, she was just dismissive. It was just too much of a stretch of an imagination.
Oh, my gosh. And how long have you been together? Seven years.
Does she love what you do? She appreciates what I do. She used to love it more... when she wasn't with me. Now she sees the risks and the injuries and the effect it has on me and she doesn't like it as much. But I think that's important too because if you have, someone at home who's a super fan, then I'm always Finn, right?
And you start to feed your own ego and then you just lose the run of yourself. So I think it's super important to have someone at home that helps keep you grounded. When I go home, I... Well, home is home. Well, home really now is the airplane and the Marriott because we're on the road so much. I live in Miami. Miami doesn't feel like home.
Ireland now, when I go home, which is home, home, and all my family are there, I've kind of been gone so long, I don't really relate to the environment there anymore. And what I picture as home is like Ireland 20 years ago. Ireland's evolved so much and changed in those years that it'll always be home, but I don't don't sometimes feel at home there.
But maybe it's just because I'm dipping in and out because I'm only in there for four or five days at a time.
It's not the greatest term, but the carnival aspect of what we do kind of makes us a carny in a way where like... Everyone else has a home life. And we don't often. We have seasons of it where we do, and then you get back into this and you get going full tilt. I asked in the sense of if she likes it.
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Chapter 4: What challenges does Finn Bálor face in the current state of WWE?
Maybe because folks don't know what you're doing in terms of what are you simulating, right?
I feel like a lot of matches people see, there's... They see the pay-per-view match or the blow-off match. And there's been a whole story arc up to that where they've done all these different sequences and edited them and tweaked them and changed them. And it makes sense because of the story. But people are emulating just the blow-off match. So they haven't told the back story.
So it doesn't really make sense. Well, it's a copy of a copy. Of a copy, of a copy, of a copy, of a copy. Because most people are probably copying someone who copied it from someone in the 70s, who copied it from someone in the 50s, who knows. You a grown-up favorite wrestler? Grown-up?
like super young would have been ultimate warrior transitioned into shawn michaels transitioned into sean wallman oh yeah yeah i gotta get sean wallman so we just added this ben brown the archivist this is wrestlemania 7. the trench from warrior and uh warrior mach and then liz comes in the ring after also we were discussing why he puts the trench coat on after the match we don't know
And our theory was that maybe he thought that they weren't going to get it back to him. You know, sometimes our stuff goes missing or, like, got auctioned off or whatever. So he puts it on to run out. Auctioned. Yeah, yeah. You know, like, I don't know. Or in my case, be with something. All my demon costumes have got auctioned off. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. It's disappeared.
You got to keep eyes on that stuff. Otherwise, it's gone, you know. Some people have sent boots, I remember, to, like, for exhibits. And only one boot came back. There's a, you know, there's a trading world for it all. Yeah. This message is sponsored by Raycon. Now that the holidays are over, it's the perfect time to upgrade your gear for the new year.
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Chapter 5: How does Finn Bálor view the evolution of wrestling in Ireland?
It's a strange thing. There's got to be someone else like that too, right? Well, I mean, if you look at Doink, the original Doink, there's all these guys who are just absolute... Like headhunters.
There was a guy in World of Sport, going back to World of Sport, Les Thatcher. I'm pretty sure he was a shooter.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You had to kind of be.
Yeah.
Yeah. Do you consider yourself a shooter, hooker, any of these things? You've got grappling experience.
You want to know a story?
Hell yeah.
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Chapter 6: What role does mental and physical preparation play in Finn Bálor's routine?
I feel like, you know, there's always these Booker sayings and these older wrestlers, whether they're the Booker, producer, president, they always sometimes will say something and...
I feel like there's an air of that here where did anyone ever tell you that, and this isn't an opinion as much as I'm curious if anyone told you, maybe it was something that you outgrew in terms of the demon character or just the general sense because old school wrestling 101, look at you. You don't cover that up. Like, you're 10 out of 10, dog. Oh.
You know, like, and you're shredded to the gills. An old school wrestler perspective. Like, I think a lot about when I wear the mask. Jason Baker makes these masks. He's super talented. Hate when he makes other people masks and doesn't tell me. But hate it. Legit. But I always think about a lot of times, like, I think about my dad and I think about other old timers. Like, no. No.
Don't cover your face. And I don't necessarily just subscribe to the philosophy because sometimes it's like, no, it's cool. It's cool. I'm doing this cool thing, right? But I wonder if that's something because it feels like maybe the block is filled in terms of I totally get all those being advertised. It's supposed to be a surprise. But I don't know. I just was curious.
Did anyone ever tell you you didn't need it?
I don't think I need it, and that's probably why I was so resistant to doing it for a long time because the way it was kind of been booked, and presented by the company, I felt it just wasn't effective or as effective as it could have been. And then I think there was some sort of confusion about why is he the demon some nights and Finn the other nights?
And then maybe some people were getting let down when I'm not the demon and stuff like that. I would love to go back to doing it. But I would love to have more creative control. And I feel like I lost a lot of that, especially when I came to the main roster. I think it was done really effectively in NXT. I think when I came to the main roster, it wasn't done as well for a multitude of reasons.
But in the future, I would love to get back to doing it.
I'll give you a moment of vulnerability on my half that I thought, I'm not going to tell him this. He'll think this is... But I'm going to tell you. All right. I... right before I left when I was doing Stardust, I wrote Hunter like a four-page email, which you know how that goes. Anytime it's more than a page, it's probably already...
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Chapter 7: How does Finn Bálor balance family life with his wrestling career?
Like all the Japanese boys are behind me and he's right down the back of the bus. I'm like sitting up at the front of the bus. He's like, hey, kid. I'm like, is he talking to me? Hey, Irish kid. I'm like, yes, sir. Come back here. And like straight away, like he's super welcoming. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like took me out for dinner, like helped me get like acclimatized to working in Japan and
living in Japan, how to deal with the office over there, how to deal with the boys over there. And then fast forward eight years, when I moved to NXT, I had to find a place to live because I'm not from America. So in the transition period of looking for a place to live, I actually lived with Matt Bloom and his family for three months. So to Matt and Farah, I would like to...
always say thank you because for me, they are like my American family.
So Matt may be the one wrestler who doesn't owe you money. Well, there's other wrestlers. I owe him money. For the Bullet Club situation. I owe Matt Bloom a lot. Okay. Oh, my gosh. Well, shout-outs. Yeah, cheers to Matt Bloom for sure. It's multiple times he's been mentioned. It's important to note, too, that – He's down there developing people now, developing individuals who are coming.
Yeah. And actually, little known fact, I want to give him also another shout out because my second run in NXT, which I'm very proud of, which I consider probably some of my best in-ring work in my career. Okay. And the producer I worked with on every match was Matt Bloom. Yeah. And... He's someone who really understands how they work. And for that, I'm grateful for.
And I would love to have him on the main roster. But I feel like he's much more valuable to the business
at the Performance Center. For sure, and times change in a way that's really wild. You know, Ben is sitting there, and I've pointed at him several times. Ben's never changing. This warehouse is his. Things come in here. But all the other positions in here, it's really wild. If you look at WWE and you see, like, oh, that guy's in charge of this now, and that guy. It's growing.
And then also the question of, well, who's next?
Yeah.
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