Club icons are set to present the Premiership Cup? | Tom Morris (21.09.26)
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
What have you got? What's got your interest? When you were there, I was watching Australia versus Zimbabwe. That's where we're at at the moment. My interest is who's going to present the Premiership Cups to either team on the weekend, depending on who wins. So the Fremantle Dockers have released that it's Sean McManus, who is one of their greatest ever players.
Who will present the Premiership Cup if the Dockers or Lions win?
He was there at the very start, I think, in 1995. 228 games for the Dockers. So if the Dockers win, Sean McManus will present the Premiership Cup. And my understanding is if the Brisbane Lions win, it'll be Simon Black. to present the Premiership Cup following on from Jonathan Brown last year and Lee Matthews the year before. So the Lions haven't released that yet, but that's what I believe to be the case.
Lockie Neal's going to
be
the biggest story
of the first couple of days of this week. So I'm going to break it down. I know I've spoken about it extensively this morning. This is how I believe the Lions will argue in terms of their first contention, their second contention, their third contention. So I think their first contention will be this was not a strike. This was a body check. There wasn't actually contact between Lockie Neal's fist and Jack Ginnivan's chest. And as a result, it should be thrown out. I think if that is to fail, they will argue that it was low impact, not medium impact. And there's a precedent of three incidents this year that were low impact fines. Harley Reid with an elbow. John Newcomb with a swinging backhander at Max Gorn, and then Harvey Thomas for the Giants earlier in the year in round one.
So there is examples this year of low impact. And Michael Christian has been very clear to say, and the AFL has said, it will be usually graded as medium impact, not always. So usually is more than 50% of the time, according to Michael Christian. So there is scope for it to be downgraded from medium to low. And then I think the third argument is the exceptional circumstances argument, which Scott Pendlebury lent into earlier in the year. I think that will be their order of priorities. And I think if the first one fails, they're a chance to succeed with the second, and the second one, the third one. I think they are three reasonably strong arguments, whichever one the tribunal chooses to accept in the end.
Yes. So I understand why it's here. The vision is completely inconclusive. You can't tell what his fist or open hand or anything is doing. It's too far away. It's grainy. You can have the supposition that you hit him with a fist. It looks more chest than stomach.
What are Lockie Neal’s alleged offences and how are they being argued?
And then he bowls him over. And then if you let the vision run, he clearly turns around and said, oh, come on, mate, you took a flop. Yeah. He does the soccer thing, doesn't he? Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, you can run all of that in context. And I think- Where do we get to with the Olly Dempsey vision last week was not definitive. Well, I'd put you... Put your fandangled cameras of that up against the grainy vision from afar of this. And then exceptional and compelling circumstances for exemplary record. It just begins and ends there for me. It was Gary Ablett, 328 games, dual Brown low medalist, never suspended. Lockie Neal, 320 games, dual Brown low medalist, never suspended. It took the tribunal three minutes.
So
do you think they should do
that first before-
No, no.
What are the three main arguments the Lions will use at the tribunal?
That's the
last one.
Because I think you can beat it on the way through. Yeah, I agree. But you can't have- People are arguing precedent, precedent. So you can have the precedent of nine suspensions, but you can't ignore the second precedent. The second precedent is cut and dry. It was there for Gary Ablett. It should be there for Lachie
Neal. And if it's
not, it'll take an awful lot of explaining as to why it's not being afforded to him. That's right. Yeah. 320 games, no suspensions. That's- Two Brownlow medals. It's the same threshold that Ablett used in 2019. Yeah. And it took three minutes. Yeah. I do remember that case. That's right.
So I
would sit the Pendlebury one to the side. Yeah. That relied on Ablett, but that was 400 plus.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:18
2
Who will present the Premiership Cup if the Dockers or Lions win?
0:18–2:29
3
What are Lockie Neal’s alleged offences and how are they being argued?
2:29–3:17
4
What are the three main arguments the Lions will use at the tribunal?
3:17–7:00
5
How reliable is the video evidence of the Lockie Neal incident?
7:00–12:38
Speakers
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