Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
I'm Gerard Waitley. Here's a snapshot of Wednesday, May 6. Ken Hinckley with his thoughts on the AFL's findings from the Elijah Hollands investigation.
Ultimately, I took in that there's a better future for mental health.
Chapter 2: What insights does Ken Hinkley share about the AFL's findings on mental health?
That's what I took in, and I didn't want to look back and reflect back onto it. who's done what or who hasn't done what when it comes to the previous game with Elijah involved in.
So I think the reality is that going forward, it'll be a safer place for AFL players and for AFL staff, not just players, because mental health is a full, broad, unfortunately across the whole of the competition, the whole of the public. So my reality is the good that comes from this is
And that's what we should look towards is what good can come from it is that it's going to be a safer place for everyone to work and be involved in AFL football, which in some ways, Gerard, is a little late to the party.
And Phil Davis assessed the changes to mental health care in the aftermath.
We're at a point here where there's two things moving at once, I think, around the game. I think there's one, and it's been happening for a while, Gerard, and you've probably been at the forefront. There's one that the attention on the game is increasing. But what's happening on top of that? And I think that level of increase has come from sort of like normal that's always been there.
So whether it be more reporters, more TV shows, that. But then there's this second lane, which is the age of social media and the like. It's a different form. But what's happening, I think those two together have really increased the... has really increased the, I don't know, the toll that I think it's having on players.
Just the inability to escape, the inability to have somewhat of a normal life. And I think what's happening is it's bottling up and causing a lot of issues. And then I should have said there's actually a third one to it. And I think there's been a significant cultural shift, which is for the better. I think the first two are not helpful.
But I think this third one around a shift in the culture where talking and discussing and bringing this to the surface is becoming more normal and you're not having to suffer and hide like you may have 30 years ago. I think Devitt Brereton said it very nicely a couple of weeks ago, just saying like 20 years ago, they would have just said, Elijah's not cut out for AFL football.
versus now it's a very different discussion. And I think that's the other sort of tailwind that, you know, has moved this to where it is now.
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Chapter 3: How has mental health care evolved in the AFL according to Phil Davis?
You can't. There's a line that no one crosses, I don't think. I think it's a performance game and that's what we work towards.
So how ā like Gary Lyon talks in the day about having a big red target on a player on the team board. Were you of that school?
We had moments where there was names up on the board and we'd do what we could to stop them. As I said, it was not unusual and it still wouldn't be unusual today to try to limit the impact of certain players. And what parts of that, looking back in their history, because that's what you look back on. You don't just look back.
when they played against you, you look back and go, okay, well, what did Chris Scott do to player X when Geelong played him? If it's good enough for them to do, well, why can't, why don't we try and do something similar? So you look at past experiences, you look at matchups and you look really closely into that. You'll see that, you know, with champion data stuff,
that'll break it down pretty close to, well, there were 62 minutes where it was Gerard Whitely versus Ken Hinckley. And we know what the disposals, the matchup numbers were coming out of that part of the game. So we look at the strengths of the opponent and go, okay, well, what player best suits that person for us to take care and get the same sort of result? But as I said...
Footy's a very funny game from week to week. They don't necessarily follow the trends too well in performance. Yeah, but we definitely spent time circling players on the board and highlighting what they needed to get to get their best performance and what we needed to do to restrict that best performance.
And Phil can't imagine Toby Green anywhere other than the Giants. Could you see Toby Green in a jumper other than a Giants, Guernsey?
no definitely not someone actually mentioned that to me a few weeks ago and it caught me by surprise toby toby's the ultimate winner and he wants to win a premiership more than anything else however yeah he's the he's the greatest ever giant and i think when push comes to shove it's always hard to leave a club and it's harder when you're an all-time great like he's the greatest it's
It's funny, Luke Hodge obviously left, but Luke retired and then came out of retirement. They're two very different things. And I think when Luke retired, he never thought he'd wear a Brisbane Lions Guernsey. And that was totally fine. And if Toby does play for another club, that'll be totally fine. And he'll still be the greatest ever.
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