Ken Hinkley

Ultimately, I took in that there's a better future for mental health.

That's what I took in, and I didn't want to look back and reflect back onto it.

who's done what or who hasn't done what when it comes to the previous game with Elijah involved in.

So I think the reality is that going forward, it'll be a safer place for AFL players and for AFL staff, not just players, because mental health is a full, broad, unfortunately across the whole of the competition, the whole of the public.

So my reality is the good that comes from this is

And that's what we should look towards is what good can come from it is that it's going to be a safer place for everyone to work and be involved in AFL football, which in some ways, Gerard, is a little late to the party.

Notorious.

That's a very strong word.

I mean, all we did was we tried to, and I can think back to this because Max probably doesn't like me too much still, but we think back to trying to limit Max's ability to get down the line of the ball because he's such a good player.

I just thought he's one of the, and still is one of the very best players in the competition.

So our job was to frustrate.

I think it was Rosie and Butters' first game, I reckon.

Right.

At the MCG, we had these two little kids coming off the ground and they were chipping away at Max Gorn as they're coming off the ground at halftime.

And Max did get a little bit, he did get a little bit flustered, but I think it probably helped him in some ways and improved his performance as a footballer because he didn't let it happen again because he made a mess of us plenty of times.

Don't worry about that.

You know, that was just, you know, one of the challenges that we had to do.

And, you know, and you can see when you've got the whole team behind, we've got first game players who are doing it or trying to do it.

You know, there's plenty of those moments which you look back fondly on and go, oh, we got that job done.

But I can guarantee everyone who's listening, there was plenty of other moments where we got done on that job.