Ken Hinkley

Yeah.

It's not very easy to stop great players and it's not very easy to stop great teams.

It's just a commitment to whatever it takes to win the game of football.

It's a performance industry.

We're about winning and we need to win first and foremost.

But we do that.

Clearly, you do that with care.

People just talk about some challenges with care.

You can't.

There's a line that no one crosses, I don't think.

I think it's a performance game and that's what we work towards.

We had moments where there was names up on the board and we'd do what we could to stop them.

As I said, it was not unusual and it still wouldn't be unusual today to try to limit the impact of certain players.

And what parts of that, looking back in their history, because that's what you look back on.

You don't just look back.

when they played against you, you look back and go, okay, well, what did Chris Scott do to player X when Geelong played him?

If it's good enough for them to do, well, why can't, why don't we try and do something similar?

So you look at past experiences, you look at matchups and you look really closely into that.

You'll see that, you know, with champion data stuff,

that'll break it down pretty close to, well, there were 62 minutes where it was Gerard Whitely versus Ken Hinckley.