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Whateley in a Snapshot | Wednesday (13.05.26)

13 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 7.026 Gerard Waitley

I'm Gerard Waitley. Here's a snapshot of Wednesday, May 13. Ken Hinckley pondered the next coach at Carlton.

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7.046 - 13.239 Ken Hinkley

There's a lot more facts you need to gather before you would make a decision around who you do and don't want to coach, you know.

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Chapter 2: What insights does Ken Hinkley share about coaching decisions at Carlton?

13.72 - 27.166 Ken Hinkley

And you've got to match up to the people's views that are involved in the selection process. you know, criteria here. They've got to want the right coach. They've got to want the right person. You know, my challenge is I'm a much older person.

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27.186 - 46.807 Ken Hinkley

So at 59, the sense I'd get was this is a longish build for Carlton and, you know, maybe they are, you know, as everyone said, everyone's predicting a first-time coach. I would be fascinated if John Longmire wasn't spoken about really deeply at Carlton because he's, such a good fit for cultural issues, and he's provided that at Sydney.

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47.007 - 53.635 Gerard Waitley

So he would, to me, embody everything that Carlton has been lacking. So what does he embody for you?

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55.297 - 75.601 Ken Hinkley

Yeah, absolutely. Strong leadership, consistent behaviour, demands of high performance, you know, and he has consistently led his team to the final, I think, what was it, 12 out of 13 years or 10 out of 12 years or something with horse. So he's got a track record that says he can – He can win, but, you know, that's a different list.

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75.661 - 93.808 Ken Hinkley

And he took over from Roosie, wasn't it, I think all those years ago, and the list was in pretty good shape. So it's probably – this would be a different challenge for John. This would be a different challenge for any of the tried coaches. This would be a different challenge for you. And, you know, you jump into it with the belief that you can actually make –

94.21 - 113.35 Ken Hinkley

a big difference in a pretty short period of time. That's what us coaches think. We tend to see the positive and we want to see the good, the sunshine coming over the hill. We want to see that. And John would certainly do that. Adam, myself, Nathan Buckley, the tried coaches everyone's talked about. The untried coaches are the ones who come in with a little bit

113.836 - 130.158 Ken Hinkley

a little bit unknown about what this job is and then they've got to be seen to be able to make the creation of change and, you know, whether they can or they can't. Stephen King's a great story with what he's done this year. The Melbourne list was a much, much better performed list, even though not many people would have thought that.

130.599 - 142.155 Ken Hinkley

They'd been to the draft for the last few years and brought in some players, but he's done an outstanding job, Kingy, to bring the players that he had and then get them to believe really quickly and that's been a great result.

142.422 - 146.153 Gerard Waitley

And Kenny detailed the intangible of culture within a footy club.

Chapter 3: What qualities does John Longmire bring to a coaching role?

219.235 - 219.756 Gerard Waitley

It's hard.

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219.776 - 240.137 Phil Davis

I remember being really upset, particularly when Leon left, because you've just done so much together. You've had so many intense conversations on all range of emotions. And... You just buy in, Jared. That's the thing. That's what you do. That's what I love about football clubs. You buy into a story. If you don't buy in, you leave.

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240.377 - 261.563 Phil Davis

And I think Paddy Cripps, poor Paddy Cripps, has bought in so many times. When you weigh it all up, Jared, like the thing about the coaches and these key figures is, you know, once they go, you know, what's tying you there sometimes? And I think when they think about big decisions, Patrick Cripps will be a big decision, obviously. And I hope he stays a Carlton player forever.

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261.728 - 282.819 Phil Davis

But it'd be hard for Pat. He just keeps fronting up. And as I said to you before, I don't see them being a final team in the near future. Or like, sorry, I should say a serious final team in the near future. And they've got some decisions. And he's been a remarkable guy. I've got so much admiration for Pat. I think he's a great leader, a great competitor, and a great guy.

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283.76 - 298.816 Phil Davis

And I think how long can he just keep fronting up for, Jared? I think he'd just be tired, Jared. He'll be very tired. He'll – He would just be a tired guy, Gerard, and now he's just become the target for everyone when it's not really his fault. So I feel for him.

299.236 - 312.39 Gerard Waitley

And Davis on the reality of 14 games in caretaker mode. 14 games in caretaker mode is an awfully long time. And so you lived this experience. How do you make it work?

313.952 - 341.983 Phil Davis

Yeah, well, very, very difficult. I'm not sure we did, Gerard. We had a bit of a spike at the start. And then what happens is everyone's in flux. You've got just a multitude of factors that are now extending to a long period of time. It's just everything from that short-term spike. I'm not sure who Carlton will play this weekend, Gerrard, but they're going to be hard to beat, Carlton.

342.383 - 358.69 Phil Davis

You'll get that spike like you always do, and you might get it for a couple more weeks because – you know, you're throwing the game plan out. You know, that's what you do when a caretaker coach and you play with more freedom. You do all the things that the coach sort of said you couldn't do. And then that is great for four or five weeks, Jared.

358.71 - 375.658 Phil Davis

And then the reality comes that once again, you're playing a high performance sport with other teams are smart and they know what they're doing. That doesn't work. And then after five weeks, you've still got eight or nine to go, Jared. So it's, It's just a long time. You've got the assistant coaches trying to work out, well, actually, maybe I am a coach. Should I be a coach?

Chapter 4: How does culture impact a football club's performance?

537.091 - 551.832 Malcolm Speed

It can dictate the terms under which the new look BBL would operate. And it would need to do so to allay the fears that those people you're talking about, and I was one of them, I've thought that through, I was one of them, I didn't want that to happen, that they have.

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552.312 - 560.824 Gerard Waitley

And that's just a snapshot. The full program and all interviews are available through the Waitley podcast.

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