Whateley in a Snapshot | Wednesday (13.05.26)

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Gerard Waitley 0:00
I'm Gerard Waitley. Here's a snapshot of Wednesday, May 13. Ken Hinckley pondered the next coach at Carlton.
Ken Hinkley 0:07
There's a lot more facts you need to gather before you would make a decision around who you do and don't want to coach, you know.

What insights does Ken Hinkley share about coaching decisions at Carlton?

Ken Hinkley 0:13
And you've got to match up to the people's views that are involved in the selection process. you know, criteria here. They've got to want the right coach. They've got to want the right person. You know, my challenge is I'm a much older person. So at 59, the sense I'd get was this is a longish build for Carlton and, you know, maybe they are, you know, as everyone said, everyone's predicting a first-time coach. I would be fascinated if John Longmire wasn't spoken about really deeply at Carlton because he's, such a good fit for cultural issues, and he's provided that at Sydney.
Gerard Waitley 0:47
So he would, to me, embody everything that Carlton has been lacking. So what does he embody for you?
Ken Hinkley 0:55
Yeah, absolutely. Strong leadership, consistent behaviour, demands of high performance, you know, and he has consistently led his team to the final, I think, what was it, 12 out of 13 years or 10 out of 12 years or something with horse. So he's got a track record that says he can – He can win, but, you know, that's a different list. And he took over from Roosie, wasn't it, I think all those years ago, and the list was in pretty good shape. So it's probably – this would be a different challenge for John. This would be a different challenge for any of the tried coaches. This would be a different challenge for you. And, you know, you jump into it with the belief that you can actually make – a big difference in a pretty short period of time.
Ken Hinkley 1:36
That's what us coaches think. We tend to see the positive and we want to see the good, the sunshine coming over the hill. We want to see that. And John would certainly do that. Adam, myself, Nathan Buckley, the tried coaches everyone's talked about. The untried coaches are the ones who come in with a little bit a little bit unknown about what this job is and then they've got to be seen to be able to make the creation of change and, you know, whether they can or they can't. Stephen King's a great story with what he's done this year. The Melbourne list was a much, much better performed list, even though not many people would have thought that. They'd been to the draft for the last few years and brought in some players, but he's done an outstanding job, Kingy, to bring the players that he had and then get them to believe really quickly and that's been a great result.
Gerard Waitley 2:22
And Kenny detailed the intangible of culture within a footy club.
Ken Hinkley 2:26
When culture gets tested, are the people at the top willing to understand the detail in the build? And if they're not... culture will break. If that's your definition of culture, I think it's more around good people doing their best every day that they turn up for the football club and being really honest with where they're at. That's when you get good. I used to say this to David, David Kosh, regularly. Dave, we've got a very good culture, but unfortunately we can't claim it because we never won. So culture, but that's what kept us and me in my job for such a long period of time, for 13 years, was because we did have a great culture. And people who will be listening say, yeah, losing culture. Well, we didn't have a losing culture.
Ken Hinkley 3:14
We had a high-performance culture that understood the challenges of winning and losing. So I think that's where the difference is. And for Graeme and Rob to find this path now and stay on it, I'll be really fascinated to watch and see when that first bump comes. What does culture do? And how as a player?
Gerard Waitley 3:34
Phil Davis on what might be occupying Patrick Cripp's mind right now.

What qualities does John Longmire bring to a coaching role?

Gerard Waitley 3:39
It's hard.
Phil Davis 3:39
I remember being really upset, particularly when Leon left, because you've just done so much together. You've had so many intense conversations on all range of emotions. And... You just buy in, Jared. That's the thing. That's what you do. That's what I love about football clubs. You buy into a story.

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