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Whateley - Monday | Full Show (22.06.26)

22 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 2.554 Gerard Whateley

It's Stuart Waitley. Thanks for listening to the podcast.

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Chapter 2: What are the snap judgments from the weekend's sports events?

2.634 - 21.617 Gerard Whateley

In this episode, your snap judgments from round 15 and the Socceroos' loss to the US, Adam Simpson with the Monday means test, the wisdom and experience of Robert Craddock, and the latest footy news with Tom Morris. You can get in touch at any time. Waitley at sen.com.au. Thanks for listening. Enjoy.

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23.234 - 24.175 Josh Fraser

Monday morning.

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24.896 - 50.575 Gerard Whateley

This is your town. This is your station. This is Waitley. Good morning. So this is the world in which John Bertrand didn't outsmart Dennis Connor and Ian Thorpe didn't swim down Gary Hall Jr. I must say this version of US Australian sports sucks. The elation of last Monday centred on the Socceroos followed by the disappointment and second guessing of Saturday morning.

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50.875 - 75.2 Gerard Whateley

But knowing everything hinges on what happens on Friday. The highs and lows of sport. It's why we start every Monday with Snap Judgements. What you feel most passionately from the weekend of sport. What's better out than in. What you need to say out loud to be able to process and move on. The Belgravia apparel open line is 1-300-736-736. And the 40 Wings temper text is 0-4-3-3-9-8-11-16.

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75.261 - 92.346 Gerard Whateley

The difference is temper. From the choices of Tony Popovich through to the successes of Josh Fraser. the fresh instalment of the endlessly fascinating days of our Carlton lives. On Thursday, we had correspondents ridiculing the idea that the Blues were an interesting case study.

92.867 - 112.415 Gerard Whateley

The proposition put forward was this was nothing more than a sugar hit under an interim coach and it would end in Sydney at the hands of the Giants. That proved not to be the case. Carlton is fascinating for the very reason that this isn't a sugar hit. It's real. This is not the cliche of playing with freedom and abandon.

113.016 - 140.488 Gerard Whateley

Fraser hasn't released the handbrake and freshened old minds with new ideas. What he's done is restore what the Blues are good at, put process ahead of outcome and challenge those who are failing to deliver when it mattered most. Carlton had been told the core of its game wasn't built for modern footy. It prioritised everything else and dropped key pieces in search of being something different.

140.508 - 167.012 Gerard Whateley

Yet contest and clearance remain the core strength and the absolute cornerstone of the Blues game. From the top down, Carlton was instructed to chase ball movement and speed. But that's an outcome. And when you try to shoehorn it in, it's unreliable and unsustainable. And under pressure, it was flaky and prone to collapse. Fraser has shown it is connection that gives you ball movements.

167.313 - 191.627 Gerard Whateley

Carlton were trying to do it the wrong way around. Fraser has imposed defensive integrity and synergy, and he's put the right pieces in the right places, including George Stewart and Blake Akers. And now they have the system that is reliable, dependable and predictable. That's coaching. Josh Fraser has come in as the emergency teacher, but landed like John Keating in Dead Poets Society.

Chapter 3: What factors contribute to Carlton's current performance?

214.806 - 233.146 Gerard Whateley

We don't have to know after five games. There's nine more to go. It will allow the stress testing of the system that has been put in place and the natural improvement that comes from playing with it week and week. And it will also allow the Blues to face pressure in games they must be winning, like West Coast at Marvel this week.

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233.707 - 253.446 Gerard Whateley

And with any luck, a critical game or two that will decide whether they qualify for the wildcard games. The only imperative for Carlton is that Fraser must be in the process when the choice for the next senior coach is made. There's no presentation that can match the reality of actually doing the job. His interview will be different than

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253.544 - 280.82 Gerard Whateley

to those of the aspiring assistant coaches, but you have to put him before the panel. Whether this is fleeting or lasting, whether Josh Fraser is the next great coach, whether Carlton can make the wild card cut off or not, that's all in the future. But we can say with complete certainty now, Carlton is fascinating in a whole new way. Sam Wells splits the middle.

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280.84 - 303.755 Gerard Whateley

And the Blues lead by six at three-quarter time. Count Heywood. 55. Heywood gets his second. Blues back out to a 12-point lead. Hooks it in towards the corridor. Ainsworth gathers. Feeds it off to Cottrell. Vacant goal square. It goes to... Yet to impact the scoreboard.

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303.915 - 315.394 Wyndham Clark

Harry comes in. Splits the middle. Can you believe it? The Blues are tap, tap, tapping on the door of the top ten. Five in a row under Fraser.

315.374 - 332.151 Josh Fraser

We couldn't have asked for a better script being in that position and the fact that what they threw at us, the way Walshie was able to take his moment at three-quarter time, understanding what they would throw at us again in the last quarter, it was going to be a great test for us. And again, this is where I've seen the growth in this group where we...

332.806 - 349.593 Josh Fraser

The occasion or the moment doesn't get too big for us or hasn't in recent time and we've been able to manage that. Now we've got bigger challenges ahead but tonight in isolation the players and the way they led and their moments and the connection they had on field I thought was terrific. In some ways it felt like a home game.

349.613 - 357.666 Josh Fraser

Our supporters are coming along for the ride at the moment which is fantastic. We appreciate everything they're doing for us and we get a chance to go and play in front of them next week again in Melbourne.

357.848 - 385.437 Gerard Whateley

And what a ride that always proves to be. 1-300-736-736 and 0433-981116 to cast your snap judgments. From the debate over Collingwood's list strategy to Luke Beveridge's attempts to retool... The Bulldogs for the back part of the season. The search for meaning is pretty deep for Adam Simpson in half an hour's time, but you cast your snap judgments first. Louis had the not-so-snap judgment.

Chapter 4: How has Josh Fraser impacted Carlton's coaching strategy?

649.198 - 660.629 Gerard Whateley

Ten days is a long time to stew on that, but I'm glad we got the four points. Look, I'm really excited for this year's Brownlow count, Gerard, and Brownlow multis are going to be really hard come that time of year for you.

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660.769 - 674.995 Gerard Whateley

I know how much you love the Brownlow multi, but, you know, Naziah had 44 yesterday, but Bontempele, if he doesn't get the three votes for his game, he even had three hit-outs, Gerard. And that's more to my point where if I ever see Bond in the ruck again, I will rip my own eyes out.

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675.495 - 695.082 Gerard Whateley

I think I wouldn't say that, Jack, because that's clearly what's going to happen if you listen to the Beveridge press conference. No, I know, I know. And I just don't know about it. You just don't leave the Rolls Royce out on the street, mate. You just don't. But one thing I will, a negative thing just across the whole game as a whole,

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695.348 - 700.997

I'm finding myself getting angry at neutral games with the officiating. We're at an all-time low with officiating.

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701.457 - 709.83 Gerard Whateley

And I was actually... I won't take credit for this, but my dad was telling me, he reckons we've got four uphires now. Why don't we just station them all in parts of the ground?

710.05 - 720.286

Less running, less worrying about kilometres in the legs and GPS, and let's keep the heart rate down and keep the brain functioning at a high level and making common-sense decisions when they come along.

720.306 - 741.418 Gerard Whateley

We are seeing far too many games be ruined by... insertion from umpires and just terrible decisions and inconsistent calls of the same rule. It is diabolical at the moment, Gerard. It is. It is, Jack. And part of the conclusion of the weekend is I don't think there's enough competent umpires for the four umpire system. But we'll do that in the means test. Jake's on the road. Hello to you, Jake.

742.96 - 749.869 Gerard Whateley

G'day, Gerard. How you going, mate? Excellent. Now, I want to talk about Naziah Wanganui-Malera's game from yesterday.

Chapter 5: What are the expectations for Carlton moving forward?

749.889 - 769.973 Gerard Whateley

But just before I start on my... My snap judgment. You might remember a number of years ago, Tom Mitchell was playing for Hawthorne and he got 52 possessions against Geelong at the MCG one day. And Chris Scott in the press conference came in and said we were happy for him to do that because he didn't hurt us. Well, I don't bury fish and kill all the Western Bulldogs, but I watched that game.

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770.113 - 788.342 Gerard Whateley

I watched every second of that game yesterday. And Wanganeen Malira, I'm going to make a snap judgment here that's not going to be very popular, Gerard. I'm going to say that for the price that he's paid, he's the most overrated footballer in the AFL. And I'll tell you why. Yesterday, he had six turnovers coming out of the back half. His direct opponent kicked two goals.

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788.643 - 806.717 Gerard Whateley

He doesn't defend when he's in the back line. And I know that Ross Lyon probably has somebody else come down for him to cover his man. But when there's a stoppage in the defensive 50, he just does not man up. Three times yesterday he could have used his left foot and three times he turned the ball over, twice kicking the ball out of bounds on the full. He just doesn't use his left foot.

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807.178 - 827.454 Gerard Whateley

So for somebody who's paid as much as he is paid, which is an absorbent amount, he is the most overrated footballer in the comp. Gerard, that's my snap judgment. Yes, Jake, well, that will be provocative. I think the difference between one week and the next was profound. He was maximum impact against the Giants, damaging everywhere that he went. And yesterday, they went back to that old habit.

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827.514 - 853.98 Gerard Whateley

They just stuffed the ball to him and... yes, Luke Beverages, he could have had 65 and they were unfussed by it. So it's week to week because one week he was devastating in his impact and the next they used him in all the wrong ways. Steve, Billy, your snap judgments are coming up. The Belgravia Apparel Open Line 1300 736 736 and the 40 Wings Temper Text is 0433 98 11 16.

854.36 - 860.131 Gerard Whateley

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860.679 - 862.262 Wyndham Clark

Now back to Whiteley.

863.137 - 881.783 Gerard Whateley

Now the Americans are way down the left.

881.803 - 882.845 Spencer Johnson

They've got a big chance here.

Chapter 6: What are the strategic considerations for AFL team building?

3398.702 - 3413.317 Gerard Whateley

Where I think they're right, they shouldn't be giving up on their list. The idea of giving up and going to the bottom, now leave me out of that. So you have to be really strategic around that. Who are your young players who could still make it?

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Chapter 7: How do young players like Ed Allen fit into a team's future?

3413.377 - 3438.269 Gerard Whateley

Can Ed Allen still make it? Yeah. Unanswerable at the moment. Has looked like no, but still might tip to be yes. Well, let's be honest here. Are they going to be A graders? So if you hit with an A grader with your first draft pick- and you hit with a short-term A grader as your free agent, then he doesn't need to be an A grader. He just needs to be a B grader.

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3438.389 - 3445.098 Adam Simpson

I don't know. I look at Fremantle. They've got seven A graders. So what's one going to do?

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Chapter 8: What impact do injuries have on team performance and strategy?

3445.559 - 3467.058 Adam Simpson

The list build, they should be studied, Fremantle, what they've done. It's taken them a while. So Justin's first year was COVID year, so that's 2020. So you don't just fall into it. Um, they haven't done it through father, sons or academies. They've just done it through hard work and the, the, the natural way of doing things in always a compromised draft.

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3467.098 - 3483.796 Adam Simpson

So yeah, if that's what Collingwood think they need is just to one A grader and get some of these kids who I can't see, I don't look at them deep enough, Jared, but I'm... I'm looking at Dacos brothers and then there's not a lot of young, geez, these kids, you know, he's scratching around. We're going to get him to tag a little bit and learn how to win the ball.

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3483.836 - 3501.203 Adam Simpson

And eventually he's going to come through and be this shining light. That's, that's not, I can't see that with those kids, but maybe you're right. Maybe they just need a couple of, Number one, A-grade players around them and hit the draft and you got to snag that draft. You got to get in the top five to get the almost guaranteed A-grader.

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3501.223 - 3510.994 Adam Simpson

So recruiting is going to be important, even if, you know, it's the future stuff and the pro scout, but the kid, they got to get an A-grade kid, don't they? Yes. Yeah.

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3511.014 - 3515.74 Gerard Whateley

To sit alongside Nick Dacos. You can get the A-grade veteran, but you've got to get an A-grade kid as well.

3515.76 - 3532.788 Adam Simpson

He's coaching well. He's coaching well. So he'd take out the list management stuff, which, you know- As a coach, I wasn't... really deeply involved with. It's like, give me these type of players, go do your work. Whereas the way he's coaching and, and I heard Carr on the weekend talk a lot about our entries were poor.

3533.168 - 3552.745 Adam Simpson

If you have a shallow entry against the Giants, against Sydney and against Collingwood, they're going to slice you through the corridor. And that's what they used to do, the pies. So there's a way to beat the teams that take you on through the corridor on handball meters game. It's get it in as deep as you can and sometimes take your time. So we can really defend behind these deep entries.

3552.725 - 3563.602 Adam Simpson

And the port didn't do that. They tried to center it a bit too early, turned over 60 out, and they just invited the slingshot return, which was really good coaching from Collingwood's point of view.

3564.003 - 3574.059 Gerard Whateley

So drive for show, putt for dough for golf clearance outlet. We beat everyone's prices. That was Jordan Degoe and Nick Dacos. They were both excellent.

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