In this live episode of the Wine & Hip Hop Podcast, Jermaine Stone sits down with Andre Mack at the Philbrook Museum in Tulsa for a conversation that goes far beyond wine.Andre Mack is one of the most influential voices in modern wine, a former Per Se beverage director who went on to build a multi-million dollar wine brand and redefine what it means to be a sommelier. But this conversation isn’t the usual story.Because of their longstanding relationship, Jermaine and Andre discuss topics that aren’t often discussed publicly, from the real mindset behind his success to the decisions that shaped his path outside the traditional wine world.They talk about:• Going from zero wine knowledge to the top of fine dining in under two years• Walking away from the expected path to build something independent• Using hip hop, culture, and storytelling to connect with new audiences• What it actually takes to communicate wine in a way people understand• The current state of the wine industry and where it’s headed next• Why live experiences are becoming the future of wine• A major reveal about what Andre is building nextRecorded live in Tulsa, a city that has become a second home for Jermaine, this episode blends real conversation, industry insight, and cultural perspective in a way that only Wine & Hip Hop can.This isn’t just about wine. It’s about building your own lane.

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