In our second installment of RAW, we welcome Susan Lacke, a triathlon and endurance sports journalist and author, and Kate Næss, consulting psychologist, speaker, and recently retired elite triathlete and Paralympian. We speak with these two women with different disabilities about where we are in accepting people with disabilities. What can we do to be more inclusive for all people at all ability levels? Representation. They open up about struggles that they, and others in their community have in navigating spaces without representation. We chat about society’s tendency to take people with disabilities and put them in a box and exploit them for the benefit of others without disabilities. Thanks to Susan and Kate for reminding us that vulnerability and strength aren’t independent from each other, but actually depend on each other. We learned so much from these two women and had a few laughs along the way. We hope you enjoy this chat and learn a few things too. FOLLOW SUSAN: https://twitter.com/SusanLacke FOLLOW KATE: https://www.katedoughty.com/ SUSAN'S BOOKS: Life’s Too Short To Go So F*cking Slow - https://bit.ly/2I3zBkT Running Outside the Comfort Zone - https://bit.ly/37shYUJ BECOME A WITSUP MEMBER - www.patreon.com/witsup

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