Wolf & Owl with Romesh Ranganathan and Tom Davis
Hot Chip Aftermath, WhatsApp Groups and Holding Grudges
04 Jun 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
He, he, he, he, he, he, he.
Chapter 2: Is it acceptable to wave at strangers in public?
Yo, what do you want? Beak or jaws? Feathers or fur? Sharp teeth or feet with claws?
Chapter 3: What are the dynamics of secret WhatsApp groups?
Whatever's preferred. Just kidding, every word in this song's about two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog.
Welcome to the Wolf and Owl email special. Full disclosure, we're recording this straight after the main episode where we did a hot chip challenge. Although we didn't do the full hot chip challenge, we ate probably what?
Chapter 4: How can overthinking affect our interactions?
I literally had a nibble of it and I'm in pieces here. By the way, my respect for you is fucking... You were incredible. I was incredible, actually. That was one of the coolest things I've ever seen you do. It's a low bar. But... Are you all right?
Chapter 5: What strategies can help with holding grudges?
No, literally, mate. It's like, you know, like a bird.
Chapter 6: How does the hot chip challenge impact the hosts?
Yeah. As soon as a bird eats, it needs a shit. Do you really feel like you need... Do you feel like you could shit right now? Yeah. Like a fucking fiery big shit. I'm in bits. I'm loathe to make two episodes in a row where that becomes a main part of content, but... I'm literally in absolute pieces. Such acid reflux. I can't stop.
I sort of feel like I'm just going to be sat there for the whole of this like that.
For a weekend at Bernie's. It's not nice when it moves into your stomach, is it?
No. My tongue, my esophagus, everything's, it's ruffled everything in my body.
And you've not even had any milk. I'm trying to delay it as long as possible. Okay, shall we do some emails? Hello, Wolf and Al. I'm the confident Capybara. Over the past few months, I've developed a terrible habit of waving at people I don't recognise, just in case I do know them.
I feel like I'm going to be going into these almost drunk. This is actually the closest I've felt to being drunk in quite a while.
It started as a polite half-wave, but now it's a full-on commitment. Last week, I waved at a stranger in a car, then panicked and waved again to make it look intentional. My question is, how do I stop this before I'm known as a local maniac, or do I fully commit and start a public-facing role like Mayor? How do you pronounce that word?
Mayor.
Mayor. Yeah, I say Mayor. What, really? That's my natural. I deliberately changed it then. But normally I say mayor. Fucking hell. It's starting to kick in now.
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Chapter 7: What advice is given for dealing with overthinking?
This is really a fucking bad idea to have come straight in and done this, but I will wave back. I love the thought of us living in a world where you wave strangers and that people... And that people are just a bit more friendly.
It's burning inside me.
It's so fucking molten, right? It's insane. I'm just, all I can think is, yeah, anyway. I think you should keep on waving. I think you should keep on waving. And I think it's a beautiful thing. I think what you're doing is really delicious and decent.
And I think the more we as society come together and be nice, and I do think committing to it, and actually maybe if you feel this way inclined, being a mayor or a mayor and someone front-facing could actually be the one thing that we're lacking, someone in politics who's really good at it. I do not anticipate this. I think I've got another email in me before everything explodes.
I genuinely feel like the Death Star. And Luke Skywalker has just flown into that little hole.
Oh, God.
Rom, advice, please.
It's fucking churning in my stomach. Yeah, I know. What are you doing to you?
Mine's stuck here. Here. It just feels like acid inside. Yeah, it does. It feels like you've drunk acid. Like battery acid. Okay. Can we just ask something? I just want to, and I hate to do this, but how many people have died having these? Why do you think you're going to die? Oh, I just feel awful. Go on, go, go.
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Chapter 8: How should one approach feelings of being excluded?
And so when they feel that they've been wronged, they cling on to it. Actually, the truth is, if you do any reading about this, it's slightly, I don't want to offend you, because I'm guilty of this and Tom's guilty as well. It's actually a sign of ego where you feel like you've got to defend your position and somebody's wronged you and you just hold on to it for a very long time.
Unlike the way Tom is holding onto himself here. So what I would do is I would genuinely think on a couple of these instances and try and recognize the feeling that you're having, that you're having a feeling of resentment and annoyance about it and just recognize those as feelings and then let them go. I think that you have to try and practice chilling yourself out about it.
Carrying grievances about stuff that's been done to you in the past is like picking up a load of heavy rocks and then spending the rest of your life carrying them. It's well within your ability to just put them down, to let them go like a loose stool, you know? It's those things that they're going to be burning, burning inside you and working their way through your system.
It's like a dragon burping. Zog. Anyway, I hope that helps. I don't think anything we've said today has helped.
But my advice to you is... By the way, can I say we've done some fucking stupid things on this podcast. Having a hot chip and then deciding to give actual decent advice while both of us are potentially dying is fucking insane. But it's not good.
Thank you so much for sending your emails in, wolfhardpod at gmail.com. We might be back next week. We'll see how things go. We are about to get a building in Covent Garden evacuated. We'll see you next time. Bye-bye.
I actually think I've got mouth paralysis.
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