Wolf & Owl with Romesh Ranganathan and Tom Davis
Three Peaks Challenge, Intrusive Thoughts & Anxiety When Things Go Well
23 Apr 2026
Chapter 1: How does the London Marathon influence personal growth?
Welcome to the- Welcome, welcome! Yo, ride up, ride in, here comes Rami with something profound to say. It's the Wolf and Owl email episode. Uh, thanks so much for your emails. Remember to like and subscribe, if you could. Uh, wolfowlpod at gmail.com is the address.
And Tom- Email one! Woof, woof, woof, woof, woof, woof!
Chapter 2: What challenges do Tom and Rom face in the National Three Peaks Challenge?
Yo, what do you want? Beak or jaws? Feathers or fur? Sharp teeth or feet with claws? Whatever's preferred. Just kidding. Every word in this song's about two grown men dressed up as a bird and a dog.
Chapter 3: What role do listener emails play in shaping podcast discussions?
Tom is going to read the first email for you. Do you want me to? I'll do it.
Chapter 4: What insights can be gained from intrusive thoughts during positive moments?
Go on then. Dear Wolf and Al. Long time listener. First time writing in. I've listened to the pod since day one. Fellow Crawley citizen with the hour. Does that work? Do you say citizen if you're from the same town? It's not a city, is it? What ridiculous thing to ask me that question? Is it townism or something? I've got no idea.
Chapter 5: What does the Owl's advice reveal about managing anxiety?
And over the years, you've really helped me grow in confidence by sharing your own experiences and always picking each other up. The owl in particular has inspired me, seeing him run the London Marathon and show that anyone can do it, how important and beneficial running is.
Between that and everything else you both talk about, it's helped me stop being scared of my own shadow and actually put myself out there, which is why I entered the London Marathon this year and unbelievably got in on a charity place, Mind. to prove myself that I can do something out of my comfort zone and on my own, all thanks to you both. I'm currently deep in the trenches of training.
I bet you are. That's a really mean thing to say. No, but this is the time when you're really in it. You didn't mean that. I did.
Chapter 6: How do past experiences shape decisions about performing in certain locations?
I didn't. But your podcast gets me through every single run. I bet it does. And I honestly couldn't be more grateful. I bet you couldn't. So thank you, Inspired Iguana. Inspired Iguana, thank you so much. That's a lovely thing, man. I think you doing the marathon inspired more people than you'd know. It's actually really nice.
Chapter 7: How can one cope with the fear of disaster when things go well?
If that's true... I mean, I'm sure it is true. Why are they lying? What an insane lie to make. I'm going to pretend that I'm running the marathon to make Romesh feel good about himself. No, I'm not saying they inspired Iguana. Narcissistic. I'm not saying they made it up. I'm saying they might be giving me too much credit for them. No, no, no, I don't think that.
Chapter 8: What are the implications of the 'pain body' concept in everyday life?
I think you doing the marathon inspired. It certainly inspired me to try and do something. Yeah. I still don't know. I'm still trying to find that thing. But I do think watching someone you're close to. do something, go through a rigorous training regime. And a lot of people didn't think you were going to do it. No. Right? To actually do it twice. And they were nearly right. No, but you did.
And do you know what? On both times, second time I believe, you had injuries and you were all different. And you still completed it. Still completed it. That is something. It doesn't matter. And what happens when you're sitting, you know, in your older years and you're sitting with your grandkids. I'm there now, mate.
60 years old and Theo's little boy comes running in and goes, Gwyneth, Ramesh, tell us about the time that you ran the marathon. Where is he from? America. Theo's gone to America. He's on Broadway or something. He's done a Marvel movie. Marries his American sweetheart. Speaking of movies, Alex has auditioned for the same movie as you. Wow, really? Incredible.
The one I spoke to you about the other day. Okay, that's cool. It's an insane project. Yeah. It's weird that they're going for the two of you for the same part. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it could go. It's the only audition I've ever done where you have to act without words. Yeah. Which is insane. Yeah. No, literally a lot of this.
Oh, fuck.
Okay, I think you're playing fast and loose without words. You said two. Yeah, but that's at the end. I added that. Yeah, I know. Okay, but those are words, aren't they? I added it because I didn't know if you'd know what I was doing. I knew what you were doing. Okay, do you want me to do it without the words? Well, I think I'll get it. I can just imagine you not saying the words.
I don't want to see the whole thing again. A third time on this. Yeah. So this one is you get back to your room and it's been smashed up and you hear something in your bathroom. It's a hotel. What do you think? It's actually all right. What was wrong? There was a moment where it sort of like, it was quite busy with the body. Yeah.
I mean, I'm sat down, you're making me reenact walking into a hotel room. You're sat... Okay, I didn't realise it was like a joke. What? You're doing this. So let's do one where you do the act out, but I don't know what it is. Okay, cool, cool. You read in the paper, you're on the train, and then you remember the time that you shot yourself once. No. What is it then? It's the end of the world.
How is it the end of the world? No, it's saying in the paper. Why would it say in the paper? Why would you find it from a newspaper that it's the end of the world? Because I haven't got a phone. It's the olden days. It's the olden days? Yeah, like it's before phones and social media. I didn't watch the news or listen to the radio. That's how you'd react to the end of the world? Yeah.
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