There is a stage of business growth where things can look successful from the outside and feel chaotic on the inside. Revenue is real. Clients are real. The team may even be growing. But nothing quite compounds. Every quarter feels like starting over, every hire feels like a gamble, and too many decisions still rely on instinct because there is no real operating system underneath the business. In this episode, Eleanor is joined by Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby, founder of Growing Self, who built her business from a solo therapy practice into a network of 65 clinicians operating across the United States. Together, they unpack what it took to move from founder dependence to a more scalable model, how the business itself evolved over time, and why intuition becomes less reliable as complexity increases. Listen in this week as Eleanor and Lisa talk about the hidden cost of over relying on intuition, the danger of making emotionally driven people decisions, and the power of metrics to reveal what your business is truly worth and what it is truly costing you. Get full show notes and more information here: https://safimedia.co/WO92 Connect with Eleanor on LinkedIn or Instagram: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eleanorbeaton/ https://www.instagram.com/eleanorbeaton/?hl=en

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