Episode 63 - What is BEAUTY and Where Does It Come From?
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What does “beauty” really mean and how do we define it?
How do you define beauty? In society, there's so many things that we call beautiful. We could call a baby's face beautiful. Sometimes we describe movies as beautiful. Uh certainly landscapes and natural elements strike us as beautiful. paintings, sometimes a a goal in an overtime game it can be described as a beautiful performance or comeback, dancing, architecture, Even a spreadsheet, I think, has been described as beautiful. So what really is beauty? With all these discrepant definitions, I think that's why we've come to the often heard uh colloquialism beauty's in the eye of the beholder. We like to say it's an individual choice and often informed culturally. But then how do we explain the fact that facial symmetry
is ranked as beautiful across all continents, across all cultures. So perhaps it's not quite as simple as the things we learn culturally. Today we're gonna take on the origins of beauty and we hope that you guys come along for the ride.
Well, there's nothing like a second take on a show because we fucked up the first take. This is Woodworking Is Bullshit, your favorite podcast about why we do the things we do, not how we do the things we do. I'm your host, Paul Jasper of Copper Pig Woodworking. And of course I got my boy in the chair across the screen. Eric Curtis. Fine. And content creator. You came in early, Eric.
Sorry, sorry. You paused in a weird way. I thought that was my opening.
You you were like loving on your dog and you were like, he's a good boy. That other voice that you hear is none other than Painter Extraordinaire, our good friend Jeff Hind. Jeff, thanks for joining us on this topic.
Oh man, I'm I'm excited to be back. For a third time.
Second time on air, yeah. We tried to record this show. It didn't quite work out for a number of reasons that we're not gonna get into. We've
said it before on the show, we take creative risks and sometimes those don't pay out. You know, that's the that's the definition of risk.
So this is our second crack at it, which means I think we'll have a little bit of a different tone than perhaps the first try, but maybe it's better. But I am gonna start off the same way, which is to say this episode is about the idea of beauty. Is it inherent to the human condition? Is it part of who we are genetically? Is it culturally learned? Is it both? This was a question that Jeff came up with. Jeff, can you give us uh an example of why you thought of this question in the first place.
Well, I would add one more ca category. Uh uh were we created with a certain collective appreciation for beauty? Um and that that's what I think about. I mean, anyone who knows me knows that I'm a biblical painter, so I'd be quite a hypocrite if I wasn't didn't believe the things I painted. Um, so but I will say I'll I will say I don't know anything. I don't know Um about this topic. I mean, I know something about it, but I don't know what we're gonna discuss, what the what the prognosis is, you know. It's just interesting to think about. And and throughout my entire career doing paintings, I've often thought to myself, why do I study design? If there are so many rules of design that I've been taught. Appeal to the masses.
I myself being uh One of the masses technically If it appeals to me on a root genetic level, then I shouldn't have to be trained. I should just know what's beautiful when I see it and paint it. I shouldn't need training. So I thought a lot about it because I am kind of an instinctual Artist. Uh I use artist loosely because I I feel like it's a a label I don't like to put on myself, but But a maker, maybe. Um, I'm very intuitive and I don't have a lot of great training, but I know a lot of the rules of design and I often think that I don't pay attention to them as much as I pay attention to my intuition and So I've thought I've wondered how much is ingrained in me. And everyone, and how much is taught? through just nurture or literally academically taught in school and so on?
So, Paul, I I know you want to get into uh the science behind things because that's who you are and and that's why we love you.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What does “beauty” really mean and how do we define it?
0:01–11:18
2
Is beauty an innate, genetic trait or a cultural construct?
11:18–22:54
3
What does science say about universal preferences like facial symmetry?
22:54–34:16
4
How does the Savannah hypothesis explain our attraction to certain landscapes?
34:16–47:19
5
Do cultural practices (e.g., black‑lacquered teeth, neck rings) reshape beauty standards?
47:19–57:37
6
Why do some beauty trends persist across time while others fade quickly?
57:37–1:09:07
7
How do personal experiences and evolutionary drives influence our sense of beauty?
1:09:07–1:21:37
8
What conclusions do the hosts reach about the origins of beauty?
1:21:37–1:29:34