Global Caregiver Advocates Bonus Series: Spotlight On India with Bhavana Issar
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What is the purpose of the Global Caregiver Advocacy Series and who is the guest?
I felt that the purpose of my life was to shine the light on caregivers because they are invisible and that our society needs to be able to see these invisible shoulders that everything rests on. You know, the rest of the society rests on it. Economies rest on it. In fact, nations rest on the idea or
the work of caregivers. So it's time that we see that. Did you know that in 2020, there were 53 million caregivers in the United States? And by 2025, this number is expected to grow to 62.5 million. 73% of these caregivers also have a job. They are called working caregivers, and they are invisible because they don't talk about their caregiving challenges. Working Caregivers, The Invisible Employees is a podcast that will show you how to support working caregivers. Join Selma Archer and Zach Dimopoulos on the Working Caregivers, The Invisible Employees podcast as they show you how to support working caregivers.
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening from whenever or wherever you are dialing in. We thank you. This is Working Caregivers, the Invisible Employees podcast. I'm Zach Demopoulos. I'm Selma Archer. Hey, Selma, how are you? I'm great, Zach. How are you? I'm doing fantastic. We are really excited because we are going to continue today our Global Caregiver Advocacy Series. If you missed our first one, we'll put that link in the notes. We had spoken with Canada a little over a year ago, and today we are so honored and grateful to speak with India. So we're going to get started right away and like to bring to the show Havna Isar. Hi, Havna. How are you?
Hi, Zach. I am so excited that we have been able to take our conversation from two years ago or more. And I'm delighted to be here with Salma finally. So looking forward to our conversation. Great. I've been looking forward to meeting you as well. I've heard so many wonderful things and exciting stories about you. So I'm just sitting on the edge of my seat. I know you're over 7,000 or 11,000 kilometers, 7,000 miles away from us, but tell us a little bit exactly where are you calling in from? This is the national capital region of India, which is on the outskirts of New Delhi, a place called Noida. I'm currently based here. The last time I spoke with you, I was in Mumbai, which is the financial capital of India.
Well, again, we are so honored to have you. You and I did meet a while back, and we've been so excited about having you on the show as part of our Global Caregiver Advocacy Series. But before we get started, I've got to share with our audience something extremely amazing about you that I'd like you to kind of share a little more. When you and I spoke, you told me a little bit about an adventure that you did, something to do with a motorcycle. And then you told me about a book, which I immediately purchased. The Sky, stories of women across India who are changing their destiny and has a little bit about something to do with riding a motorcycle to probably one of the highest places in the world. I'd like you to please share a little bit about that adventure and why did you do it?
I remember the conversation that we had that easily went into a couple of hours that has something to say about you being a great conversationalist. Thank you. Well, my story that got published in the book, the background to that is that with six other women motorcyclists, women motorcyclists, who scaled the highest motorable road called the Mana Pass, which is at the Indo-Tibetan Chinese border in the Himalayas. First time ever for women to do that. And it was a ride that we got what is called a Limca record for. And more than the record, I think the experience and the journey was a challenge in navigating the external terrain, which is, of course, strenuous and challenging. But it was also, I think, equally navigating one's own inner terrain and discovering oneself. So to me, it was seminal. It came in my 41st year. And so I think
In many ways, a mark of my midlife and in many ways, a reminder that I need to finally reclaim who I am. I think the work that I do now was very informed by that particular ride.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the purpose of the Global Caregiver Advocacy Series and who is the guest?
0:00–8:10
2
How did Bhavana’s Himalayan motorcycle journey inspire her caregiving mission?
8:10–18:36
3
Why is there no word for ‘caregiver’ in Indian languages and how does that affect visibility?
18:36–29:48
4
What cultural expectations make daughters‑in‑law the primary caregivers in India?
29:48–40:03
5
How do caring communities help close the ‘compassion deficit’ in society?
40:03–46:40
6
Is caregiving being recognized as a workforce issue in Indian corporations?
46:40–53:07