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266 - The Alchemy of Group Facilitation Crafting Harmony and Tension with Jason Fox

23 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

A constant, unchoreographed dance of tension and harmony, of structure and emergence, of psychological safety and sincerity, of client and group: faci...

265 - In the Rhythm of Leadership: Learnings from Music Thinking with Christof Zürn

16 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

From free jazz and the musical echelons of piano concerto, to indigenous beats and the didgeridoo, this week’s episode is an invitation into the won...

264 - Play as a Prism: Exploring Group Work, Conflict, and Human Connection

09 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

It is wonder, curiosity and imagination wrapped up in one. It is both a suspension from reality and way of navigating the world, a problem solver, a f...

263 - From Water to Metal: Exploring Elemental Archetypes for Enhanced Facilitation with Alice Inoue

02 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We are all made of stars. The elements of our bodies were first forged in celestial matter across the cosmos billions of years ago. As humans, we tend...

262 - Navigating the Facilitation Landscape with Community Perspectives

26 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Earlier this year, SessionLab published the second edition of their State of Facilitation report, surveying the ever-evolving landscape of our profess...

261 - The Unseen Dynamics of Effective Facilitation with Tanja Murphy-Ilibasic

19 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

From her debut in episode 53, to episode 261 many years later, my guest this week Tanja Murphy-Ilibasic makes her return to the podcast this week! Tan...

260 - Exploring the Art of Invisible Facilitation with Charles-Louis de Maere

12 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The act of naming something gives it presence, it makes it visible. So how then, do we navigate something as infinite and nameworthy as facilitation, ...

259 - Leading with a Rainbow Lens: Enhancing Inclusive Leadership Practices with Dr Steve Yacovelli

05 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week we take a look through the iridescent, rainbow lens of leadership, with Dr Steve Yacovelli, aka ‘The Gay Leadership Dude™’, to ask the...

258 - Community-based Education Supporting Community-based Enterprise with Colonel Walter Holmes

27 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Can I get your attention? Because this week, I have none other than Colonel Walt Holmes with me on the show, Air Force Commander, author, and master f...

257 - Exploring the Ethical Lines between Facilitation and Consulting with Benjamin Taylor

21 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Dominant, supportive. Immediate value, gradual value. Explicit, implicit. Scarcity, abundance. Consultant, Facilitator.It might be tempting to view th...

256 - Deliberate Dialogue to Unlock Wicked Problems with Amanda Harding

13 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Dialogue is a form of sense-making in motion. Thoughts become words become ideas, and ideas then enter reality splintering into fresh, new routes of d...

255 - The Transformative Art of Authentic Relating and Facilitation with Yaniv Rose

06 Feb 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Is there an art to creating human connection? My guest this week Yaniv Rose, would certainly say so. As an Authentic Relator, his craft lies in facili...

254 - Are Facilitators Manipulators?

30 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Master-manipulator, con-artist… facilitator? When we think of manipulation, facilitation is probably the last thing that springs to mind. We are neu...

253 - Transforming Teams with the Science of Motivation with Ahmet Tamtekin

23 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Motivation is a complex, elusive creature. We either have it, or we don’t, right?But what if I told you, there is a science to motivation, after all...

252 - Lessons from a movie producer on facilitating events with Stoyan Yankov

16 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

And, action! This week, Stoyan Yankov takes us on a journey from behind the clapperboard to discuss the fascinating symmetries between movie productio...

251 - Harmonizing Teams: Collective Song-Writing as a Workshop Tool with Sam McNeill

09 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We all speak the language of music. It’s life’s medicine, a beautiful escape when we need one, and it feeds our soul in ways that feel, somehow, i...

250 - Crafting Impactful Learning Experiences with Military Precision with Pat D’Amico

02 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

From the US Military, to the world of professional coaching, my guest this week is not only an ex-army officer, but an executive coach, leadership men...

249 - Facilitators in the Role of Participants – Insights from the NDB Festival 2023

26 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This episode is a special one! You’re invited to time travel back to the NeverDoneBefore Festival, and join me in my virtual podcast boat where I sp...

248 - Facilitape: Enhance Workshop Experiences using Tape with Matthias Lenssen

19 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

My guest this week is not an artist, nor a designer, but a facilitaper. A self-confessed chaotic creative, Matthias Lenssen has honed his craft over t...

247 - Dare to Facilitate! with Jenny Theolin

12 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Most of us live our lives in a natural, psychological state of comfort. It’s cushioned, it’s safe - it’s what we know. But what happens when we ...

246 - Navigating the New Normal: Challenges and Opportunities of Remote Leadership with Stephan Dohrn

06 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The fundamental skills of leadership have changed in the 2020s. Whether you’re brand-new to a leadership role or a seasoned veteran, the remote work...

245 - Unleashing the Power of Movement in Facilitation with Kate Spacek

28 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

A sense of belonging is one of the incalculable elements of a healthy, happy team. It’s either there or it’s not, right?Not so, as Kate Spacek exp...

244 - Building Bridges with Basketball: Learnings about Facilitation with Tony McGaharan

21 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

From the basketball courts of Northern Ireland to the C-suites of tech giants, Tony McGaharan just can’t stop coaching!After a decade at Google, Ton...

243 - The Interplay of Design Thinking, Facilitation and Leadership with Shamir Joseph

14 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Changing behaviour is something of a holy grail in our line of work. It’s one thing to help a group see things in a new light, but to integrate it i...

242 - Shaping Meaningful Corporate Connections with Göran Hielscher

07 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The corporate world can feel like a theme park — a place that’s recognisably ‘of our world’, with all the normal features (people, furniture, ...

241 - Are You Experienced? Gaining and Giving Experiences on the Road to Facilitation with Cate Czerwinski

31 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Workshops bring the best out of their participants when they are experiential. Which person wants to sit in a workshop that is indeterminable from a l...

240 - The Labyrinth of Corporate Facilitation: Power, Compassion, and Change with Breeze Dong, Gabor Bittera & Tobias Mayer

24 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

If you ever feel like facing a challenge as a facilitator, take on a large corporate client. Even better: work in-house as their facilitator!Such envi...

239 - Facilitating High-Impact Workshops with Joost de Leij

17 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Joost de Leij has delivered over one thousand workshops, from informal group sessions to extensive work with the largest businesses worldwide. In that...

238 - Transforming Brainstorming Sessions into Effective Workshops with Alexandre Eisenchteter

10 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

How can we make an informal brainstorming session, full of possibilities and quick thinking, into something more formal… without squeezing the life ...

237 - Mind, Body, and Facilitation: Exploring Transformation with Joe Weston

03 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Joe Weston has been helping individuals, teams, and companies look deeper within themselves for 30+ years. His unique mind-body approach — prioritis...

236 - Understanding Andragogy: The Key to Adult Learning with Joyce Matthews

26 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Learning is a lifetime’s adventure, but, for many adults, a few bad experiences or a little bit of overconfidence can see them set in their ways and...

235 - How to Start, Build and Scale your Freelance Business with Michael Zipursky

19 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Want to turn your passion for facilitation into a full-time, thriving, scalable business? Or are you already facilitating as your main job, but want t...

234 - Bridging Organisations and Education: Inspiration from Montessori with Benedikt Schmaus

13 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

You leave school and enter the ‘real world’ of work. That’s the process, that’s the plan. But who’s to say that they should be so distinct? ...

233 - Understanding the Dynamics of Remote Work with Lisette Sutherland

05 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The remote revolution is underway. Accelerated by the pandemic and snowballing ever since, the future of work is fast becoming our present day default...

232 - Facilitating the New and Teaching the Inexistent with Jason Frasca and Iain Kerr

29 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

How would you facilitate something that doesn’t exist? Or, more to the point, how you would facilitate a group in a way that something inexistent co...

231 - Through a New Lens: The Transformative Power of Photography with Else Kramer

22 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Say cheese, dear listeners! This week, Else Kramer joins me to discuss the creative and connective power of photography in a facilitation context.Thro...

230 - Shaping the Room: Power, Vulnerability, and the Art of Facilitation with Michelle Howard

15 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Everybody in the workshop process experiences some element of vulnerability.The client is taking a risk on your skills and the outcomes that might eme...

229 - Mastering Facilitation to Navigate a Fractured World with Jo Nelson

08 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Jo Nelson is one of the founders of ICA Associates Inc. and the International Association of Facilitators, as well as an IAF Hall of Fame inductee. Al...

228 - Leading Through Facilitation: Unpacking the Complexity of Group Dynamics with Rob Evans

01 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The prevailing view in organisations (and among their leaders) is that change processes are rational challenges — a question of getting from A to B ...

227 - Collaboration: Unlocking the Secrets to Successful Partnerships with Alison Coward, Rebecca Sutherns and Sunni Brown

25 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Alison Coward, Rebecca Sutherns and Sunni Brown are each exceptional facilitators in their own right, but that doesn’t mean they see things in exact...

226 - The Process is the Outcome with Kirsten Clacey

18 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

 Kirsten Clacey is a facilitator and coach, currently Head of Facilitation at Automattic’s Learn Division, with some brilliant perspectives on proc...

225 - Unleash Audience Engagement - From Ignored to Involved with Tina Lyngdoh and Lux Narayan

11 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We’ve had plenty of practice with online meetings by now; we have fallen into the common trapdoors and know how to avoid them in the future. But is ...

224 - Cracking the Code: Mastering Activism Facilitation and Empowering Communities with Anuschka Ruge

04 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Activists are the fuel behind social change. Without them, we would stall and stutter and stop making progress. These are people who are driven by pas...

223 - Demystifying Experiential Learning with Romy Alexandra

27 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Romy Alexandra is a one-woman revolution in Experiential Learning, driven by a passion for turning dull events into genuinely memorable and long-lasti...

222 - Collabor(h)ate: Insights and Strategies for Effective Teamwork with Deb Mashek

20 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Why is it that so many groups come together with a shared goal… and fail to make any meaningful progress?This is the question that’s plagued Deb M...

221 - Unmasking the Hidden Influence: The Clean Language Approach with Judy Rees

13 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Facilitation can be a messy business; what can we do to clean it up?Judy Rees, who’s been working with groups for almost 20 years, thinks the answer...

220 - Building Better Teams by Fostering Trust with Leigh Ann Rodgers

06 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

They say it takes a lifetime to build and a second to break… Trust is priceless to teams and the organisations in which they exist, so why is it so ...

219 - Unlocking Collaboration: Lessons from Zen about Facilitation with Sunni Brown

30 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Keynote speaker, published author, zen student, innovator-in-residence, and facilitator — Sunni Brown has a whole village’s worth of knowledge, bu...

218 - Insights and Challenges in the World of Facilitators: SessionLab's State of Facilitation Report 2023 with Filip Kis

23 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

What emerges when you survey 1,124 facilitators from 93 countries? The State of Facilitation — a snapshot of our profession for the year and a repor...

217 - Finding Your Facilitator Flow: The Art of Balancing Presence and Process with Sean Blair

16 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Do you have a presence when you facilitate? (Hint: we all do, whether we mean to or not!)The thing is, not all of us know it or practice it. Our prese...

216 - Mastering Difficult Conversations: The Art of Communication through Role-Play with Kate Crawshaw

09 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

A difficult conversation can take many forms — emotionally intense, sharing unexpected information, challenging someone, reasserting boundaries.What...

215 - Thinking Tools: Unlocking Companies’ Potential with Stefan Fothe

02 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Organisations will go to great lengths to create style guides, knowledge hubs, and team guides… so why aren’t they doing the same for problem-solv...

214 - Changing Change: How to Create Community and Culture Amidst Chaos with Rhys Cranney

25 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

An organisational change process is a big deal. The whole operating system of a business can change, the context switches, the foundations can falter....

213 - Unleashing Autonomy: Facilitating Self-Organising Systems with Bob Dick

18 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

What happens to a group when there is no leader, no subordinates, and no sense of hierarchy at all? Bob Dick believes this is the optimal approach to ...

212 - Why Conflict is a Gift: The Inner Journey of a Skilled Facilitator with Sarah Norton & Steve Ray

11 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Conflict in workshops is common, but how many of us seek to avoid it instead of embracing it?It’s understandable, and dare I say natural, to do so, ...

211 - An Insider View into the Worklife of a Corporate Facilitator with Lani Beer

04 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

An external facilitator enters the building with a clear purpose and a single-minded focus. An internal facilitator enters the building five days a we...

210 - Bridging the World of Play and Corporate Life with Pauline McNulty

28 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

No CEO or board is going to sign off on a project to make work more playful. This is because the misconception that play = games persists.The reality,...

209 - It's Not About the Workshop - How to Make Workplace Learning Stick with Steph Clarke

21 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Workplace training and learning can inspire some varied responses. For some, a roll of the eyes and a sense of wasted time. For others (usually those ...

208 - Facilitating F-Word Conversations with the Emotional Culture Deck with Jeremy Dean

14 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Emotions are messy — they’re big, powerful, and changeable. Facts and data are much more palatable — they’re truths and we can discuss our use...

207 - Ingredients for a Memorable and Impactful Event with Jacques the Party Scientist

07 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

What makes some events better than others? Is it the host, the setting, the purpose, or something else?Jacques Martiquet is The Party Scientist — he...

206 - Facilitation and the Needs for Autonomy, Competence and Relatedness with Ib Ravn

28 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Self-Determination Theory posits that human motivation is driven by three central values: autonomy, competence, and relatedness.If we take SDT and app...

205 - How to Facilitate with Equitable Hospitality with Maha Bali

21 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

It’s never been more important to facilitate with an awareness of power dynamics, systemic imbalances, and inequity within groups.The progress we’...

204 - A Comprehensive Discussion on the Art and Science of Facilitation with ChatGPT

14 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

It’s the talk of the internet and business circles, the culmination of many years of research and training, and an amazing step forward into the nex...

203 - How to Build Team Performance with Games with Viren Thakrar

07 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Nothing happens between childhood and adulthood that means we can no longer learn and grow through play, but for some reason we stop using this powerf...

202 - How to Price your Facilitation and Coaching Services? with Jenny Millar

31 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Does pricing make you prickle with anxiety? Imagine what it would be like to feel confident and calm about valuing your services… and now meet Jenny...

201 - Thinking with Things with Jules Gilleland

24 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Things—found objects, ephemera from the discarded world, are everywhere. A marble, a spoon, a coil of string. They’re forgettable and ignorable an...

200 - Your Questions, My Answers: Learnings from 200 Weeks of Podcasting with Myriam Hadnes

17 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The latest milestone for the workshops work podcast—200 episodes! 200!To celebrate the occasion, I’ve produced a special episode. Instead of speak...

Bonus: New Rules for Work - A Global Experiment about Creativity with Elise Keith and Dave Mastronardi

15 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In May 2022, an academic research paper titled “Virtual communication curbs creative idea generation” was published in Nature (one of the most pre...

199 - Facilitation Skills at Scale: Fidelity International's Facilitation Academy with Rod Butcher & Nikesh Patel

10 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

How do you create a culture of independent and empowered facilitation in a large business? Well, Rod Butcher and Nikesh Patel of Fidelity Internationa...

198 - The Difficulty of Crafting the Simple with Gabor Bittera

03 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

“Keep it simple, stupid” is a popular refrain which might be better translated as “make it harder, stupid”!One of the most common misunderstan...

197 - How to Set Up Breakout Rooms for Success with Gwyn Wansbrough

27 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

In an on-site workshops, breakout groups are a tried and tested way to get the group thinking, communicating, and developing.In online workshops, brea...

196 - Facilitation as Deliberate Sensemaking with Michael Hamman

20 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Facilitation is a system that gives groups space to make sense — it’s not about guiding them towards something, nor is it about leading them.But w...

195 - Deconstructing the Meaning of Diversity, Equity & Inclusion with Meg Bolger

13 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Meg Bolger is one of a few returning guests to this show, originally featured in episode 133 (’The conversation I wish I heard when I started facili...

194 - Learnings from Acting about Facilitation and Embodiment with Anna Momber-Heers

06 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

When you’re facilitating, where are you? In your head, your body, a role? There are no wrong answers, but there are plenty of interesting questions ...

193 - An Unhurried Conversation about Unhurried Facilitation with Johnnie Moore

29 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

How often do you walk away from a conversation feeling heard, like you put across the things you wanted to? Feeling relaxed, not frantic?And how often...

192 - Exploring Language Privilege in Facilitation with Florentine Versteeg

22 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Language is messy. It comes with assumptions, uncertainties, and contradictions — but what else can we use to facilitate?Florentine Versteeg would n...

191 - What would a Bachelors of Facilitation Contain? An exploration with Marcus Crow

15 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

As facilitation has grown in popularity and awareness over the last decade. And, as markets grow, dilution and variance begins to naturally occur. Mar...

190 - The Meaning of Courage in Facilitative Work with Roi Ben-Yehuda

09 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Facilitation might not be the first thing that comes to mind when you think of courage — we do not charge valiantly into battle or wrestle wild anim...

190 - The Meaning of Courage in Facilitative Work with Roi Ben-Yehuda

08 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Facilitation might not be the first thing that comes to mind when you think of courage — we do not charge valiantly into battle or wrestle wild anim...

189 - Facilitation as an Art of Accepting Offers with Robert Poynton

02 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Improvisation seems to have an inescapable connection with facilitation. It’s a topic we’ve touched on many times in this podcast but, to really d...

188 - How to Increase Accessibility of Online Workshops? with Marie Dubost

25 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Accessibility — ensuring the spaces we create are open, welcoming, and easy for everyone to join — is a critical, but often neglected, issue in fa...

187 - The Seasons of Facilitation with Barbara Pedersen

18 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Some of you who listen to this episode will not have been alive for 30 years, which gives Barb Pedersen the wonderful claim that she’s been facilita...

186 - Narrative Models in Exformative Design and Facilitation with Francis Laleman

11 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Some episodes of this podcast have an extremely tight focus — a specific topic, inspected under scrutiny. Some episodes are like walks through a bea...

185 - Facilitation in Movement - Improvising into Growth with Tom Goldhand

04 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Dance—especially improvised dance—is an arena for deep vulnerability, connection, and growth. It requires careful and considered facilitation, as ...

184 - Heart connections in the corporate world with Breeze Dong

27 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Ask a group of leaders about heart connections in their organisations and you will likely be met with raised eyebrows and doubtful looks. Their loss—...

183 - The Secret to Engaging Virtual Meetings with John Chen

20 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We’ve had plenty of opportunities to practice online facilitation since 2020, but have we reached a plateau? Has complacency crept in?John Chen has ...

182 - On Purpose: A Client’s Perspective on a Facilitated Project with Sandy Wilson

13 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

What is it like to be on ‘the other side' of the workshop — to be a participant or a client?This podcast has always focused on conversations ...

181 - The Facilitator as a Difficultator - New Perspectives and old Concepts with Tobias Mayer

06 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Tobias Mayer’s experience as a scrum master has taken him around the world and across the upper echelons of the biggest names in tech. Those 20+ yea...

180 - How to Use (Video) Games as Medium to Facilitate Learning with Mohsin Memon

30 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Mohsin Memon is a gaming expert—but he’s not spending his days playing shoot ‘em ups. Mohsin’s expertise lies at the crossroads of learning an...

179 - Facilitation as a Diplomatic Skill in (Peace) Negotiations with Ron Ton

23 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

There are few spaces in which facilitation skills have a greater impact than diplomacy, yet conversations connecting the two are rare.This episode cha...

178 - Facilitating Transformation: A Conversation between Utopia and Reality with Douglas Breitbart

16 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

When you think of business transformation, what do you picture?Expensive consultants armed with long presentations and a briefcase of jargon? Or a vol...

177 - What Love Has To Do With Facilitation with Lorenz Sell

09 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Love is wonderful, it’s all around. Love is the finest thing in the world… but what’s it got to do with facilitation?Spend and hour with Lorenz ...

176 - Facilitating Feelings or: Creating Magic with Card Decks with Nick Kellet

02 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Games or card decks are often used as fun activities in workshops. They’re seen as good tools for keeping a group energised and interested… but th...

175 - The Meaning of Presence in Facilitation - A Group Conversation

26 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Presence — it sounds like a simple concept, but it is littered with deeper questions.Does our presence change when we are in a physical workshop or ...

174 - Use Your Voice to Set the Tone with Joep Hegger

19 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Before a workshop, training, or speech, which do you spend more time thinking about: what you will say or how you will say it?Joep Hegger would argue ...

173 - It's Not About the Workshop - with Joeri – The Magic Sauce

12 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Facilitation is such a broad brush with which to paint. Why is it, then, that so much of our work takes the form of workshops?Meeting our clients’ n...

172 - Encounters with Uncertainty and: How to Integrate Neurodiversity with Matthew Bellringer

05 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

How many facilitators dream of a workshop in which everything goes exactly to plan? And how many facilitators have experienced that dream?The nature o...

171 - Playing with Intent with Susanne Heiss

28 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Play is for kids, playgrounds, and light-hearted fun. It’s just not ‘the done thing’ in corporate settings, is it?If you speak with Susanne Heis...

170 - Psychological Safety: The soil, not the seed with Romy Alexandra

21 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Psychological safety rose on a wave of popularity in recent years. It became the flavour of the month and everyone had an idea about how to ‘add it’...

169 - Facilitating with the Awareness of Cultural Background with Cynthia Umurungi

14 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Cynthia Umurungi is a storyteller who gives a human voice to African organisations and businesses.Her voice is one I have wanted to share on this podc...