Jeremy D Johnson visited the podcast a second time after 2 years (website). This was a deep and curious conversation about change all the way down. We spoke of emergence happening in the middle, the idea of slowing down, the importance of hesitation, temporics of attention, the awakening of the relational (integrated) worldview in younger generations. We also spoke of this notion of the potential for creative responses in the fisures, in those moments when our habits no longer meets the worlds we live in. Jeremy is a master with words and this is a beautiful weaving that provided me with lots of insight. Enjoy! Host: Amit Paul Extended shownotes (Substack)

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