On this episode, Benjamin Gorman gabs with Erik Grove, author of stories in COZY COSMIC and WINDING PATHS, about marathon running, Australian brain worms, and how the most punk rock thing in the world is therapy. Today’s secret word is: Goat (Dedicated to Frances Lu-Pai Ippolito. She knows why.)Find Erik here: www.erikgrove.comPreorder your copy of Cozy Cosmic here: https://underlandpress.gumroad.com/l/cozycosmicPreorder your copy of Winding Paths here (as soon as it’s available): https://www.demagoguepress.com/Check out the merch store at Not a Pipe Publishing, and get 10% off your whole order when you use the coupon code ShowFanhttps://not-a-pipe-publishing.square.site/s/shopMentioned on the show:Shanghai Immortal by AY Chao https://www.amazon.com/Shanghai-Immortal-richly-debut-fantasy/dp/1399717413A. Y. Chao in Conversation With Fonda LeeMonday, October 23 @ 7pm (PT) / Powell’s Books at Cedar Hills Crossinghttps://www.powells.com/events-updateSpanish Love Songs album No Joy: https://spanishlovesongs.bandcamp.com/album/no-joyA Giant Dog album Bite: https://agiantdog.bandcamp.com/album/biteThe Gaslight Anthem album History Books: https://www.roughtrade.com/us/product/the-gaslight-anthem/history-books

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