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WSJ Tech News Briefing

The Philosopher Whose Job Is Teaching AI to Be Good

10 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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34.152 - 56.295 Isabelle Bousquet

Welcome to Tech News Briefing. It's Tuesday, February 10th. I'm Isabelle Bousquet for The Wall Street Journal. In-home batteries are proving to be a new solution for the countless Americans at risk of being impacted by power outages. We dive into why many are opting for these batteries over noisy and smelly gas generators.

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56.275 - 83.839 Isabelle Bousquet

Then, you might be surprised to hear that one of the world's top AI companies employs an in-house philosopher. Thanks to her help, AI powerhouse Anthropic is teaching its cloud chatbot to develop a sense of morality, emotional intelligence, and maybe even a digital soul? We'll look at how and why they're doing it. But first, power outages remain a consistent problem in the U.S.

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thanks to winter storms and planned shutoffs to prevent wildfire risks. But for those trying to keep the lights on, there may now be an alternative to loud high maintenance generators. Many Americans are increasingly opting for home batteries, which are growing in size and dropping in price. WSJ's Belle Lin spoke with personal tech columnist Nicole Nguyen to learn more.

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To start, Nicole, why should the average home dweller invest in backup power like a generator?

116.226 - 135.399 Nicole Nguyen

Gas-based generators, either diesel, propane, or natural gas, have been the default. And they work for a lot of people, especially rural areas. If you're used to multi-day outages, they can power up your whole home automatically. But they do require maintenance. You know, you need to add fuel stabilizer and you have to run it regularly and they can be really noisy.

135.6 - 153.647 Nicole Nguyen

And they also emit toxic fumes, which is why they don't work for people like me who live in multi-residence buildings. And so these very high capacity batteries, which are like a massive power bank, like the kind for your phone that live inside your house.

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and can power up your fridge and your laptop and other large appliances, that's a really good alternative to that traditional gas-based generator.

Chapter 2: What are the benefits of home batteries over gas generators?

225.559 - 248.508 Nicole Nguyen

My fridge is only something like 150 watts continually. But to start, it needs a huge... 1000 or 2000 watt burst in order to get the coolant running through its system. And there's another number that you should look for when you're shopping for a battery, which is watt hour. And that refers to the battery size. So that's how long the battery will last.

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248.788 - 267.936 Nicole Nguyen

If you're running a 60 watt electric blanket, and you have a 2000 watt hour battery, then you can run that electric blanket for hours and hours. So it really just depends on how long you want to plan for and how many appliances you want to plug into this portable power station. And what's the range of cost?

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A portable power station can cost anywhere between a hundred bucks to thousands of dollars. So you can really scale up. Many models are work with expansion packs. So you can start with a battery that costs, you know, $200, $300 that will tide you over for a couple of hours.

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Chapter 3: What is the role of a philosopher in AI development?

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And as you need it, if you move to a place with longer outages or you start to experience grid reliability problems in your area, then you can scale up over time rather than making that big investment upfront.

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I was interested to read from your column that an electric vehicle can even be used as a backup power source. How is that possible?

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307.993 - 330.031 Nicole Nguyen

We're going to hear a lot more about this in the coming years. It's called bidirectional charging, and it allows you to use the massive battery that's in your electric vehicle as a home power backup or as a way to power a remote job site or even like a projector that you want to run while you're camping outdoors.

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330.751 - 340.16 Nicole Nguyen

Bidirectional charging is available in only some models right now, like the Ford F-150 Lightning, the Tesla Cybertruck, the Chevy Silverado EV.

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Chapter 4: How is Anthropic teaching AI to understand morality?

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Basically, one end of the plug goes into your Cybertruck, the other end of the plug goes into your home battery, and you can reverse the power flow from your vehicle to your home and The Cybertruck is the equivalent of more than six Tesla Powerwalls. So this could keep your home going for days.

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That was WSJ personal tech columnist Nicole Nguyen speaking to our colleague, Bell Lin. Have you considered purchasing a home battery for a backup power system? If you're a listener on Spotify, leave us a comment with your answer.

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376.748 - 408.115 Isabelle Bousquet

Coming up, why one of the world's top AI firms thinks its resident philosopher could be the key to developing moral AI and preventing catastrophic harms from the technology. That's after the break. While many experts warn us about the danger of humanizing AI, Amanda Askell has a job that's almost the opposite.

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She's the resident philosopher at Anthropic, where she works to imbue its clawed chatbot with a sense of morality. Askell said it's inevitable that AI bots will form senses of self, which underscores the importance of teaching them good behavior. And the stakes are higher than ever.

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AI companies in recent years have been involved in wrongful death lawsuits for their models' responses to suicide-related questions. And some models, including Claude, have been shown to blackmail humans. Is focusing more on an AI model's digital soul the answer? WSJ tech reporter Berber Jin joins us for more. Berber, why does one of the world's top AI companies employ a full-time philosopher?

456.415 - 479.128 Berber Jin

It speaks to a lot of themes that are very central to this moment in technology, which is that these companies are creating something that in many ways resembles how humans behave at the very least, right? If you talk to a chatbot, they're very smart. Sometimes you can even detect a sense of their personality.

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With OpenAI, there were all of these debates around how sycophantic the model should be to users. So it brings up all these really interesting questions about how to design the behavior of a chatbot.

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And given that this is a Silicon Valley creation, people have been dreaming or fantasizing about a world in which machines one day become our peers almost, or like they're no longer the things that we command, but they exist autonomously. So

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There are all these philosophical questions that get raised in how to create a chatbot that interacts with humans, particularly around questions of morality and ethics.

Chapter 5: How do home batteries work during power outages?

561.093 - 586.194 Berber Jin

She would spend a lot of time just talking to Claude and trying to understand its behavior, how it responds to certain questions, why it responds in certain ways to certain questions. And she just became so interested in those kind of more philosophical questions that the company gave her this role of being an in-house philosopher and entrusted her to basically help design Claude's character.

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And one of the things you talked to her about that I thought was really interesting was whether AI models like Claude have a soul. What did she mean by that?

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595.668 - 622.367 Berber Jin

So this was a really interesting part of the conversation because Amanda leaves open the possibility that Claude could have some form of a conscience. And she's a philosopher by training, and she can definitely explain her reasoning a lot better than I can. But essentially, it boils down to this idea that there are a lot of attributes of chatbots

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622.347 - 641.657 Berber Jin

In her view, that almost mimics the way that we behave and feel in the world. She would disagree with the idea that chatbots don't have feelings. And it's really interesting because that informs how she designed Claude, the chatbot. If you ask Claude questions like, do you have a conscience? Do you have a soul?

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641.677 - 652.658 Berber Jin

It gives a winding philosophical response that leaves open the possibility that it might. And that's very different than other chatbots, at least that I've asked that same question to.

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Are there any risks associated with trying to imbue AI with this higher level of emotional intelligence and morality?

662.706 - 688.723 Berber Jin

What Amanda would say is that it's not the right approach to just put these very strict guardrails and be like overly conservative in designing how chatbots respond to sensitive questions. She would argue that there is a set of values that humanistic values that chatbots like Claude should internalize and that we should let that guide how chatbots behave in the world.

689.364 - 710.792 Berber Jin

But it's the type of thing where no one really has the right formula for figuring out how to make these chatbots safe in the world. And the risk of imbuing it with too much personality is that it could potentially lead to a more addictive relationship between it and its users. So that's the open question that all the labs and people like Amanda in particular are trying to figure out right now.

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That was WSJ reporter Berber Jim. And that's it for Tech News Briefing. If you're a listener on Spotify, be sure to take this episode's poll or leave us a comment. Today's show was produced by Julie Chang with supervising producers Katie Ferguson and Melanie Roy. I'm Isabel Bousquet for The Wall Street Journal. We'll be back later this morning with TNB Tech Minute. Thanks for listening.

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