Alternative Minimum Tax: Who Still Pays?

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J.R. Whelan 0:00
Your Money Briefing. Money and market stories from The Wall Street Journal. I'm J.R. Whalen in New York. The alternative minimum tax, also known as the AMT, has been significantly reduced under the new tax law. But who still faces paying taxes under the much maligned rule? We'll discuss in a moment. First, these money headlines.

What is the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) and why does it matter to taxpayers?

J.R. Whelan 0:20
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J.R. Whelan 1:09
Welcome back, everybody. Many taxpayers cringe when they hear about the Alternative Minimum Tax, or AMT. But there's a good news, bad news scenario, and Wall Street Journal tax reporter Laura Saunders is here to spell it out for us. So, Laura, the AMT is known unofficially as the rich person's tax, but the good news here, as you say in your story, is it's a shell of its former self. A lot less taxpayers are impacted by it.
Laura Saunders 1:33
It's often called the dreaded AMT because it's complex, it's surprising, it seems to come out of nowhere. And it began as a rich person's tax in 1969. It only affected people with about $1.5 million in income in today's dollars. But over time, as happens with the things in the tax code, it wasn't indexed and it changed. And it wound up affecting a lot of affluent people, people making $200,000 or even below that income. and falling mainly on people making between $200,000 to $500,000. Now, the good news, and it's mostly good news for now, is that Congress scaled it way back. They had vowed to, the Republicans in Congress had vowed to repeal it. They didn't do that, but they scaled it back so that it is a shadow of its former self.
Laura Saunders 2:23
It's not out, but it's way, way down.
J.R. Whelan 2:25
So there was a point where under the current rules, or I should say before that Congress got involved, that millions of people were affected by the AMT. And that number is far lower now.
Laura Saunders 2:34
Yes, it was. For 2018, it was going to be about 5 million filers. And under the new system, it's only about 200,000 filers. That is a huge drop.
J.R. Whelan 2:46
It definitely is. And the reduction of the amount of state and local taxes that can be deducted also helps to lessen the chance that taxpayers would be hit by the AMT.
Laura Saunders 2:55
Well, yes, how it works is so complicated we can barely even talk about it. But it is basically a parallel tax system. You have to figure your taxes two ways and pay whichever is best. you know, the most. And the AMT takes away the value of a lot of tax breaks that you get under the regular tax if you're taking too many breaks. So that's sort of this weird contorted logic. And the big things that used to trigger the AMT were taking state and local taxes, personal exemptions, everybody got those, and miscellaneous deductions like for unreimbursed employee expenses and things like that, meals, entertainment. Now, those are all gone or reduced. So that's one of the things that really helps fewer people be subject to it.
Laura Saunders 3:42
And they also expanded an exemption. So if you're making between $200,000 and $500,000, only 120,000 people will be paying that tax versus about $4 million last year.
J.R. Whelan 3:57
You also write about some taxpayers that can accumulate AMT credits. How does that work?
Laura Saunders 4:02
It's a crazy tax. But it used to be that there see the the breaks that are taken away by the AMT fall into two buckets. One is things like state taxes. You never get those back. But if it's some arcane things like net operating loss carry forwards or depreciation.

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