Give Up Sick Days? Young Workers Say No Way
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Here's your Money Briefing for Friday, October 20th. I'm J.R. Whalen for The Wall Street Journal. Before the pandemic, most workers weren't very likely to take a sick day. And if they did, it was because they were, well, sick.
Why are more workers taking sick days after the pandemic?
Now, the bar for taking sick days has gotten a lot lower, and some bosses aren't too happy about it.
We are definitely seeing more workers wanting to step away and take time for reasons of mental health. We are also seeing more younger workers feel like, no, actually, I can and I will take these days. These are part of my benefits.
We'll talk to Wall Street Journal reporter Teping Chen after the break.
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How much has sick-day usage increased and which age groups lead the trend?
People are working more days at the office, but they're also taking more sick days, and it's frustrating their bosses. Wall Street Journal reporter Teping Chen joins me. So, Teping, companies allowing workers to take sick days isn't new, but why are more people taking them now?
There's a lot going on here. Of course, we have COVID-19 and the rise in illnesses as well, like RSV. But managers and human resources execs will also tell you that there's something else going on, which is a bigger shift in how Americans relate to their jobs. We are definitely seeing more workers wanting to step away and take time for reasons of mental health. We are also seeing more younger workers have an attitude shift, whereas in the past, older workers might have been afraid of taking sick days for fear of seeming weak or unreliable. We're starting to see younger workers feel like, no, actually, I can and I will take these days.
Are younger workers taking sick days for mental-health and self-care reasons?
These are part of my benefits.
Do we have any numbers to illustrate this shift?
Well, if you look at the data, so far this year, 30% of white collar workers with access to paid leave have taken sick time, which is up pretty substantially from 21% in 2019. And that jump has been even greater for employees between ages 25 and 34. So pre-post pandemic, a pretty substantial shift.
How do hybrid and remote work schedules affect calling in sick?
It seems like there's a generational difference here in the way that people approach sick days and younger people taking more sick time than their older peers.
Yes. With younger workers, absolutely, you do hear from managers that there is more of a propensity to use sick time for reasons of mental health and that kind of self-care. There is also the feeling among a number of younger workers in recent years that they It's been a really hot job market, and we've seen employers really compete to offer a lot of benefits to get folk through the door and a feeling as well among younger workers that these are my benefits, I'm entitled to them, and I'm going to use them. And if I use them, I'm not so scared that I'm going to get fired and not be able to find another job.
How much do hybrid work schedules factor into this increased use of sick time?
On the one hand, of course, if you are sick and working remotely, it is easier to avoid calling out, which actually makes the rise in overall sick day usage even more striking. On the other hand, though, I did speak to one human resources lead at a large company who noted that now that folks are no longer in the office five days in the same way, that sense of pressure to follow the lead of older workers who are really going to show up five days a week, even if they are a little under the weather. Younger workers aren't having that same pressure to be so visibly in the office five days a week amid remote and hybrid work.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:01–0:45
2
Why are more workers taking sick days after the pandemic?
0:45–1:56
3
How much has sick-day usage increased and which age groups lead the trend?
1:56–2:47
4
Are younger workers taking sick days for mental-health and self-care reasons?
2:47–3:13
5
How do hybrid and remote work schedules affect calling in sick?
3:13–4:47
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Why did older workers historically avoid taking sick days?
4:47–5:39
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How do employers view the rise in sick-day usage and what operational impacts occur?
5:39–7:08
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What new reasons and family uses are employers allowing sick leave for?
7:08–9:50
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