Meeting Someone for the First Time? Don’t Ask About Their Job
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Why should you stop leading introductions with 'What do you do?'
Here's your money briefing for Thursday, April 13th. I'm J.R. Whalen for The Wall Street Journal. When you meet someone for the first time, an easy ice-breaking question is, so what do you do for a living? But you might learn a lot more about them if the discussion doesn't start with a focus on their professional lives.
There has been this sense, especially over the last couple of years, that people don't want to just be defined by what they do, that they want to have a bigger life. And I think going right into it can kind of be jarring for some folks in this moment.
WSJ Work and Life columnist Rachel Feinzig joins us after the break.
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How has the pandemic changed how people want to be defined beyond work?
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After introducing yourself to someone, it's pretty common to ask, so what do you do? But what if asking someone about their job wasn't the second question you'd ask, or the third, or the fourth? Would you know what to say next? WSJ Work and Life columnist Rachel Feinzig explored that question, and she joins me now. Hey, Rachel, thanks for being here.
Thanks so much for having me. I'll refrain from asking you the question, J.R.
I won't tell you what I do, but it has to do with sort of like hosting things with a microphone.
I'm getting some context clues here.
So, you know, being asked, what do you do, seems like a pretty benign question.
What social dynamics make job questions feel like status competition?
But when did it become taboo to ask someone right off the bat?
I don't think it is taboo. I think it's still a part of us. One person I talked to said it's like asking about the weather. But I think there has been this sense, especially over the last couple of years, that people don't want to just be defined by what they do, that they want to have a bigger life. And I think going right into it can kind of be jarring for some folks in this moment.
But in this era of overworking and struggling to find a work-life balance, don't many people feel their job is part of what defines them?
Yeah. I talked to people who found that all their social media feeds had been inundated with work, that they were kind of itching to have people ask them that question just so they could kind of put it out there. I think it can become this kind of problem. low-level status competition as another person described it to me. So yes, I think this is something that we're always kind of battling with, even as we maybe try to change our relationship to work.
Oh, so something like, oh, you're a manager? Well, I'm a director.
Yeah. A source for this said to me, like, he feels like people are always kind of low-level sizing each other up, maybe trying to figure out who makes more money than the other person.
So there's a whole undercurrent going on?
Yeah, yeah. And when we swap our job titles, we're really, like, trying to say something about how busy we are, how important we are, how valuable we are.
You know, Rachel, a few recessions ago, I was out of work for a stretch of time. And I remember cringing when somebody would ask what I did for work because I was out of work.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:33
2
Why should you stop leading introductions with 'What do you do?'
0:33–1:22
3
How has the pandemic changed how people want to be defined beyond work?
1:22–2:29
4
What social dynamics make job questions feel like status competition?
2:29–4:40
5
How can asking about hobbies or joy deepen early conversations?
4:40–6:23
6
What creative responses can you use if you don’t want to disclose your job?
6:23–7:22
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How can you mention work later without making it your whole identity?
7:22–8:06
Speakers
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