Money Is Tight, but Americans Are Still Revenge Spending
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Here's your money briefing for Wednesday, April 3rd.
What is 'revenge spending' and why did it emerge after the pandemic?
I'm J.R. Whalen for The Wall Street Journal. feels like consumers are losing the numbers game. Grocery prices are still high.
Which types of purchases are Americans prioritizing despite high prices?
The savings they built up during the pandemic is almost gone. And it's gotten more expensive to carry a balance on a credit card. And yet, they still find money to splurge.
They're still spending on travel. They're going out to eat, though that has come down slightly. They're still buying clothing and they're trading down a bit or moderating their purchases in the grocery store to offset those experiential purchases.
We'll talk to Wall Street Journal reporter Jennifer Williams about never-ending revenge spending after the break.
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Did last summer's concert boom signal a lasting trend in experiential spending?
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Are retail sales data showing Americans are starting to pull back on spending?
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High prices and an unsettled economy haven't deterred Americans from revenge spending on everything from travel to concerts. Wall Street Journal reporter Jennifer Williams joins me. Jennifer, what is revenge spending?
So the idea is that coming out of the pandemic, consumers had a pent up desire to be out and to travel and to go out to eat. They had saved money during the pandemic. And so the concept of revenge spending is sort of this idea that with money to spend and the desire to be out, you're doing those things versus grocery shopping, buying the essentials.
Household grocery bills are still high, and many people have actually spent down savings they built up during the pandemic.
How are companies and CFOs responding to continued selective splurging?
What are they spending on?
They're still spending on travel. They're going out to eat, though that has come down slightly in the U.S. They're still buying clothing, from what I'm hearing from CFOs. And they're trading down a bit or moderating their purchases in the grocery store to offset those experiential purchases.
And yeah, Jennifer, people are actually spending a lot of money on these experiential purchases.
Yes. So last summer, there was the so-called Summer of Taylor Swift, where people were spending exorbitant amounts of money on concert tickets to see her and Beyonce and others. And economists are wondering if that will continue into this summer. And for some of them, they think that consumers will do that again.
What long‑term financial choices are consumers sacrificing for experiences?
We saw retail sales rise six tenths of a percent in February, but that wasn't as strong as economists were expecting. Does that mean that Americans are actually starting to pull back?
They're starting to pull back around the edges, but they're still looking for ways to treat themselves. It's just not all the time. And the thinking is that as we got used to the idea of spending on experiences, consumers are trying to keep that up, whether that's using credit or continuing to spend down their savings even more. There's still this sense that you could lose the ability to have an experience like we did during the pandemic. And so they're still spending on those things.
The way that consumers have continued to spend has surprised economists, but what does it mean to the companies that actually sell the products?
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:36
2
What is 'revenge spending' and why did it emerge after the pandemic?
0:36–0:46
3
Which types of purchases are Americans prioritizing despite high prices?
0:46–1:27
4
Did last summer's concert boom signal a lasting trend in experiential spending?
1:27–1:32
5
Are retail sales data showing Americans are starting to pull back on spending?
1:32–2:45
6
How are companies and CFOs responding to continued selective splurging?
2:45–3:29
7
What long‑term financial choices are consumers sacrificing for experiences?
3:29–4:28
8
How are economists and companies trying to define the 'new normal' for consumer behavior?
4:28–8:17
Speakers
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