More Volatility Expected for Stocks
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
With your money briefing, I'm Charlie Turner at The Wall Street Journal in New York.
What caused the two-day market selloff and which indexes were hit hardest?
Stocks fell sharply for a second straight session on Friday as another rise in bond yields put pressure on equities. Once again, tech shares were the big losers. The Dow Jones Industrials fell 180 points to 26,447. The tech-loaded Nasdaq Composite lost 91 points and the S&P 500 dropped 16. For the week, the Dow was virtually flat, while the Nasdaq tumbled 3.2 percent and the S&P dropped 1 percent. Cori Dreebush is markets reporter for The Wall Street Journal. Cori, it's been quite a while since we spoke last. Welcome back.
Thank you, Charlie.
This has been a two-day pullback and attributed to rising interest rates.
How did rising bond yields change investor thinking about equities and safe assets?
That really drew investors away from stocks, didn't it?
Yes. And it's funny to say it's attributable to rising interest rates. I've had a little bit of a problem with that, with just entirely attributing that. However, that definitely sparked the sell-off. And it wasn't so much that investors are selling stocks directly. to buy bonds, it was more it caused a shift almost in thinking and this realization that we need to rethink our equity holdings and rethink their value relative to bonds as interest rates go up. And it kind of led to selling winners and almost kind of taking those profits off the table and maybe deciding whether or not maybe I should put them into safer, quote unquote, safer stocks like utilities, or maybe I should put them into bonds.
And so it's been kind of a funny thing to watch the last two days that... Bond yields are going up. The stock market is going down. But utility shares are going up, which you never think that utilities go up at the same time as bond yields. But that's how it all, the convoluted description of what's going on.
Did the September jobs report affect bond yields and market reactions?
Did the jobs report have an effect on interest rates? Job growth was weaker than expected at 134,000, while the jobless rate fell to 3.7%.
It was funny. Right after the jobs report came out this morning, you saw the knee-jerk reaction of, in the first brief moments, bond yields went down a little bit and stock futures went up. And then everyone kind of readjusted and yields continued to go back up and stock futures then went back down. into negative. And it was funny because I think it was a weaker than expected number, but it was pretty easy to justify of maybe caused by the hurricane last month, which as I talked to one analyst who was saying it was a very slow moving hurricane. So it really wiped out work and changed things for almost a full week. It wasn't just a one day affair.
As mentioned, the technology sector was a big loser this week. Why is this the case?
Well, if you can remember correctly, that tech has been such a big winner all year. So if investors are trying to look to take some money off the table or just take some profits while they can, and I know that's not the most exciting description, profit-taking, but from all the traders that I spoke to, they said this wasn't like a panicked selling that we were seeing on Friday and Thursday. It was more of a let's trim some positions. And Tech is an easy area to trim, and so is consumer discretionary, another one of the big decliners the last couple days.
Why were technology and consumer discretionary stocks the biggest decliners?
Volatility really kicked in late in the week. Can we expect this to continue?
Yes. So something pretty interesting about volatility. This is pretty technical. But the VIX future is inverted. And that's a pretty interesting warning signal. So I talked to a lot of traders who are very concerned about what happened there. And that means that It's kind of hard to explain, but so near-dated futures contracts tracking the SIBO volatility index, the VIX, they jumped above those tracking futures contracts that expire later.
What does an inverted VIX futures curve signal about future market volatility?
So that just points to heightened anxiety. And the last couple times this has happened, I think this happened in February, which obviously we saw quite a sell-down back in February. Yeah. And another time that a trader I was speaking to said that they saw the VIX invert was in August of 2015, which, if you remember, that was around the time of there was concerns about China.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:05–0:10
2
What caused the two-day market selloff and which indexes were hit hardest?
0:10–0:51
3
How did rising bond yields change investor thinking about equities and safe assets?
0:51–2:02
4
Did the September jobs report affect bond yields and market reactions?
2:02–3:38
5
Why were technology and consumer discretionary stocks the biggest decliners?
3:38–4:14
6
What does an inverted VIX futures curve signal about future market volatility?
4:14–5:34
7
Should investors expect ongoing volatility and what events are to watch next week?
5:34–6:18
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