Tariffs Could Set Up a U.S.-China 'Cold War'

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J.R. Whelan 0:05
With your money briefing, I'm J.R. Whalen at The Wall Street Journal in New York. The series of tariffs the U.S. has placed on Chinese goods could do a lot more permanent damage to relations between the two countries. We'll dive into the details on that in a moment. First, these money and market stories you should know. On Wednesday, the Federal Reserve announced plans to raise interest rates, the eighth such increase since 2015. But consumers have yet to feel a real impact. And while U.S. consumer borrowing costs have drifted higher in recent months ahead of the Fed's decision, those increases have generally been modest. Freddie Mac says the rate on a 30-year fixed-rate mortgage averaged 4.65% last week.
J.R. Whelan 0:45
That's up from 4.54% on June 7th, and it's now at the highest level since 2011. And average rates on credit cards, auto loans, and home equity lines of credit have all risen since June 13th when the central bank announced a quarter percentage point increase. in its benchmark rate, and at the time penciled in two more such moves this year. And sales of new homes in the U.S. rebounded in August following two months of declines. Purchases of newly built single-family homes, that's a relatively narrow slice of all U.S. home sales, rose 3.5 percent to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of $629,000 in August.

What immediate market and consumer rate updates should listeners know?

J.R. Whelan 1:23
The South was the only region in the U.S. to see new home sales decline in August. In the longer term, sales grew 12.7% in August from the prior year.

How have recent Fed rate hikes affected mortgages and consumer borrowing?

J.R. Whelan 1:33
Still, the pace of new home sales remains well below the elevated levels seen before the 2007-2009 financial crisis and recession.
J.R. Whelan 1:49
China canceled trade talks planned for this week as the Trump administration imposed new 10% tariffs on $200 billion of Chinese exports. And while many keep an eye on Wall Street's response to trade tensions with China, Wall Street Journal chief economics commentator Greg Ip says the brewing trade conflict could inflict long-term damage between the two countries. And he joins us from our Washington bureau to discuss. So, Greg, the U.S. has imposed a series of tariffs on Chinese goods, but as you point out in your column, China so far indicates it has no plans to cave to U.S. demands.
Greg Ip 2:22
Well, that's right. I think that the U.S. actions are fairly aggressive, and its demands are also fairly sweeping. They want big changes to the way that China runs its economy, less subsidization of domestic enterprises, fewer restrictions on what foreign companies can do. no pressure to transfer technology, etc., etc., etc. It amounts to wholesale demand that China change its economic model. And it's worth asking, and I think many are asking this, whether this is really intended to reach a negotiated settlement or simply to lay out demands that China cannot meet and set the stage for the two countries to basically disentangle the relationship that has built up between them over the last 15 years.
J.R. Whelan 3:05
And there really is no blueprint to refer to that would indicate how this might play out.
Greg Ip 3:10
Well, that's right. I mean, look to the two most relevant precedents. The Cold War with the Soviet Union was strictly a strategic rivalry. There wasn't really much in the way of economic ties between the United States and the Soviet Union. So you didn't have this strategic stuff spilling over the trade sphere and vice versa. Back in the 80s, when there were all these conflicts between the U.S. and Japan over trade, That never really had any security implications because the U.S. and Japan were military allies. Today, you have, in addition to the well-known complaints about Chinese technology transfer and intellectual property theft hurting the U.S. economically, there is above that a level of concern that these practices are making China a more formidable adversary in military and geostrategic matters.
Greg Ip 3:59
And in China, you don't really have the difference between the state and the private sector that you do in other countries. And so there's this sense that when you are dealing with a Chinese company, you're dealing with the state and vice versa.

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