The Best and Worst Ways to Pay Down Debt

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How does holiday overspending affect consumers' debt levels?

J.R. Whalen 0:02
This is Your Money Matters from The Wall Street Journal. Welcome to Your Money Matters. I'm J.R. Whalen in New York. Consumer confidence in a booming economy have inspired people to spend, in fact, to the tune of about $600 billion during this past holiday season alone. But whether consumers spent during 2017 or just during the holidays, eventually reality is going to set in. and it'll be time to pay the piper and work down debt. Joining us to discuss the best and worst ways to pay down debt is wealth strategist Rebecca Walser. So Rebecca, this is a good resolution category for 2018, but there are some traps when paying down debt. Now, you recommend people pay down their highest interest rate credit card first.
Rebecca Walser 0:48
One of the best things to do, obviously, is to attack the highest interest rate credit cards first. A lot of people think that they should attack the highest balance first.

Which credit card should you pay off first — high balance or high APR?

Rebecca Walser 0:56
That's a very common perception. Oh, I owe $20,000 on this card and only 5,000 on that one. So I'm not going to worry about the 5,000. I really got to get this 20,000 down. But if the 20,000 is say at a 4% interest rate and the 5,000 is at a 12 or 14% interest rate, it's really the $5,000 card that we want to eliminate first, because obviously more money is being charged as interest as a percentage of the balance than on the $20,000 card. So we always want to look at the highest rate cards first and attack those the most aggressively.
J.R. Whalen 1:28
So take a look at all the paperwork that comes with your credit card and see what the APR is and see what the percentage is and let that be the guide for you.
Rebecca Walser 1:36
Absolutely. Absolutely.
J.R. Whalen 1:37
And now you also suggest we avoid paying the minimum credit card payment.
Rebecca Walser 1:41
Yes.

Why is paying only the minimum credit card payment a trap?

Rebecca Walser 1:42
The minimum credit card payment is designed, and they actually had to change the law around this. I don't know if you remember a few years back, they actually had to change the law to disclose the On the actual statement, if people only made their minimum credit card payment monthly, how many years it would literally take them to actually pay off that balance. And of course, the credit card company is counting on that you pay the minimum. You have a little bit of credit available. You use that credit. You pay the minimum again. And it's a vicious cycle that you're never intended to get out of. So the minimum payment is not designed ever to really get you out of that debt. So the minimum payment will take years and years to actually come to fruition and pay off.
Rebecca Walser 2:20
We cannot go off of a minimum payment. We have to create a budget. We have to see how much discretionary funds can be moved over to getting rid of this debt as fast as possible, especially the high interest rate debt.
J.R. Whalen 2:30
You know, one red flag that's come with the strong holiday season sales is the rate of spending has outpaced the rate of savings. And you say that cashing out savings to pay debt should be avoided.
Rebecca Walser 2:41
You know, this is so true. I write about this in my book, and I know we're going to talk about it. But basically, we have a savings gap in this country. We are addicted to instant gratification. And credit card usage and spending, and the spending over this holiday season just proves it. It's our spending outpaces our savings. And if you even look at most financial advisors, they're telling people, you know, we've got to save at least 10%. But when we run the models on 10%, extrapolate that over someone's lifetime, we see that 10% is just very deficient when it comes to building a true, secure financial retirement. So the truth is 10% is insufficient.

Should you cash out savings or tap retirement accounts to pay debt?

Rebecca Walser 3:17
And we aren't even saving that. We are spending everything we get. And this is what's created our retirement savings gap, which, as we know, is anywhere from $7 to $14 trillion.
J.R. Whalen 3:26
And you say all the same goes for our 401ks and draining our retirement account. That's another red flag.
Rebecca Walser 3:33
Yeah, we don't want to drain the retirement account to pay off credit card debt because, first of all, the retirement account is probably not where it needs to be already. So draining it further to pay off current spending, you have to look at the dollar.

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