The New Magic Number for Retirement Went Up. Here’s What it Means.
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What is the new $1.46 million 'magic number' for retirement and where did it come from?
Here's your money briefing for Tuesday, April 9th. I'm J.R. Whelan for The Wall Street Journal. How much money do you think you'll need to have saved to retire comfortably? $200,000? $500,000? Try $1.4 million.
Why did the Northwestern Mutual retirement estimate jump from $1.27M to $1.46M in one year?
That's according to a recent survey of both working and retired adults.
There is a lot of anxiety in part because of inflation. But I think a lot of it also is just because determining how much savings you're going to need and how much you can afford to spend is complicated. That's a complicated math problem, and a lot of people feel inadequate to it, so they just assume they need a giant number.
How do Americans' actual retirement savings compare to the $1.46M expectation?
We'll run the numbers with Wall Street Journal personal finance reporter Ann Turgason. After the break.
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The new magic number for retirement is $1.46 million. Wall Street Journal personal finance reporter Ann Tergesen joins me.
Is there really a one-size-fits-all 'magic number' for retirement planning?
Ann, $1.46 million needed to retire. How did that number come about?
It's from a survey conducted by Northwestern Mutual of almost 5,000 people. And they've done this annually for the past couple of years.
What methods and rules of thumb do advisors use to calculate retirement needs?
And that's the number that popped up as an average expectation of what people think they're going to need.
Why is that number so high?
One reason is inflation. Last year, the number came in at $1.27 million. So it's up 15% from a year ago. Now inflation is trending at about 3%. So there is obviously a disconnect there. But part of it is that people have been a little bit scarred by the super high inflation that we've had post-pandemic. So they may be including expectations about inflation in that number.
How does the $1.46 million figure compare to how much people actually have in their retirement accounts?
The survey respondents on average have a pretty low number, about $88,000 is what they reported.
How can someone get on track to hit targets like Fidelity’s '10x salary' recommendation?
That could include a lot of people who maybe don't have much because they're young, they haven't started yet. According to the Federal Reserve, the average American has saved about $330,000, and that's a 2022 number, so it's going to be up since then because the market has done well.
But still, that's only a third of what the expectation is that people think they'll need.
It's small compared to that $1.4 million. The Fed data shows that people 65 to 74 have average retirement savings of about $600,000.
But is there really a magic number that will allow people to retire comfortably?
No, there really isn't.
What practical steps exist for people without employer retirement plans to save for retirement?
There are some rules of thumb that people use to calculate off the top of their head how much they need. The way advisors do the math is often to take what somebody's earning right before retirement, assume they need about 80% of that, and then do a calculation of how long they might live. Or often advisors will assume a 30-year retirement just to be safe. So it involves math.
Fidelity actually has a formula that people could follow along.
There is a formula that Fidelity promotes, and the gist of it is 10 times earnings. So you take your salary, you multiply by 10. That's a ballpark of how much you might need given certain assumptions.
What factors typically go into how much money people will need saved up?
A range of things. Your income, your marital status. Do you want to leave money to your kids? There's just a large number of things to consider if you really want to do that exercise correctly.
When you consider the Fidelity recommendation of 10 times your average salary by the time you're 67, how could somebody get on track to meet that goal?
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Chapters
8 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:33
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What is the new $1.46 million 'magic number' for retirement and where did it come from?
0:33–0:52
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Why did the Northwestern Mutual retirement estimate jump from $1.27M to $1.46M in one year?
0:52–1:13
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How do Americans' actual retirement savings compare to the $1.46M expectation?
1:13–2:05
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Is there really a one-size-fits-all 'magic number' for retirement planning?
2:05–2:19
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What methods and rules of thumb do advisors use to calculate retirement needs?
2:19–3:10
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How can someone get on track to hit targets like Fidelity’s '10x salary' recommendation?
3:10–3:49
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What practical steps exist for people without employer retirement plans to save for retirement?
3:49–7:40
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