These Workers Are Quitting Because They Don't Have Enough Work
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Here's your money briefing for Tuesday, March 1st. I'm J.R. Whelan for The Wall Street Journal. By now you've heard about the great resignation. Workers by the millions have left their jobs over the course of the pandemic in search of better pay or maybe to achieve a better work-life balance. And while that puts many companies searching for workers in a bind, it turns out many hourly employees are leaving for a surprising reason. There isn't enough work for them.
In this sort of environment, when you have really high rates of turnover, as well as folks falling sick, some companies are compensating by trying to hire more. And in some cases, even over hiring in rates up to 40%.
So what does that mean for people trying to work enough hours to pay their bills?
How many workers quit during the Great Resignation and what's the impact on businesses?
Our reporter, Teping Chen, caught up with several of them. We'll talk with her about it after the break.
Workers are quitting in record numbers in search of better pay and more flexibility. But there's another less discussed reason why so many hourly workers are quitting. It turns out there isn't enough work for them. So how does that square with the labor market where companies are struggling to hold on to employees? WSJ reporter Teping Chen has been following this story, and she joins us with more. Teping, thank you so much for being here.
Hey, thanks for having me.
So to Ping, just to start out, can you give us an update here? How many people have quit their jobs and what kind of effect is this great resignation having on companies?
So over the last year, we saw Americans quit more than 47 million jobs. And that's just an extraordinary number, record setting. And it's had a huge impact on companies.
Why are some hourly employees quitting because they aren't getting enough hours?
You can see that from your neighborhood Starbucks having to cut hours even in the morning because they can't keep their store going with the number of workers they've got. You know, shops and restaurants that have had to close. For certain hours, other periods, yeah. We've seen companies having to raise wages, that kind of thing. It's had ripple effects across the board.
Okay, but it seems counterintuitive that with companies being so desperate for workers, that so many hourly employees aren't getting the chance to work as many hours as they want. How's that happening?
Yeah, well, one thing that experts have been saying is that in this sort of environment, when you have really high rates of turnover, as well as folks falling sick, some companies are compensating by trying to hire more. And in some cases, even over hiring in rates up to one expert was estimating 40%, right, to essentially make sure that you have enough bodies on the ground to keep operating.
How are companies responding by overhiring and what does a 40% overhire mean?
But from a worker's perspective, if you are hired along with a lot of other people at the same time, you end up jostling with other workers for hours, and in many cases, not getting enough hours, which in turn might drive you to quit, which just continues the cycle.
Now, what sorts of businesses is this happening at?
This is really happening more in sectors that rely a lot on hourly workers. So we're talking restaurants, we're talking retail, that kind of thing, hospitality.
Okay, and this idea of overhiring, is this something new?
Not at all. This is something that's been going on for a long time with hourly workers, really for decades. And this is something that in recent years we've seen a lot of companies do, especially to try and minimize the expense of paying for benefits that might accompany having a full-time worker on your payroll, right? So it's absolutely a long-standing practice in a lot of these industries, right? What's been made more complicated by the pandemic and COVID is, of course, you have a much more challenging operating environment. You have people falling sick. You have a ton of people quitting. And so all that transpires and makes it even harder to forecast in some ways your labor needs. And so you have companies that are scrambling to try and just get people through the door to keep staffed.
And it exacerbates in some cases the sense of being on a hiring treadmill, which then in turn yields more of these situations when you have dissatisfied workers getting fired.
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4 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:05–0:43
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How many workers quit during the Great Resignation and what's the impact on businesses?
0:43–1:38
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Why are some hourly employees quitting because they aren't getting enough hours?
1:38–2:31
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How are companies responding by overhiring and what does a 40% overhire mean?
2:31–10:32
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