Why Spin-Off Companies Often Beat the Market
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This is Your Money Matters from The Wall Street Journal. Welcome to Your Money Matters. I'm J.R. Whalen in New York. Here's the spin on spun-off companies. They tend to perform a lot better than the broader market and often better than their former parent companies.
Why do spun-off companies often outperform their parent companies and the broader market?
The Wall Street Journal's Miriam Gottfried joins us to explain. So, Miriam, not only are spun-off companies popular with CEOs who often look to simplify their businesses, but they're very popular with shareholders as well.
That's correct. They're a very tax efficient way to offload a business, which shareholders like a lot. Instead of selling a business, which often is carried at a pretty low tax basis on a company's books, you can just offload it to shareholders and spin it off.
And investors who want to track spinoffs might look at the fact that they perform particularly well in the years immediately following separation from their corporate parent. You point that out in your story in the Wall Street Journal.
Yes, and the reason is often because companies, once they've spun off from the parent, can allocate capital more freely, more as they would have chosen if they were an independent business before. When you're part of a conglomerate, it's just a lot harder to get the capital you need to make the investments you need. When you're a standalone company, it's a lot easier. Also, hedge funds and mutual funds and other investors would prefer to invest in a standalone single type of business instead of a conglomerate. And so they'll often award a higher multiple to the stock of a spinoff company.
And part of that is because management teams are more incentivized?
Yeah, they're better incentivized to perform for that one company. If you're the management team of a division of a business or a unit of a broader business, it's a lot harder to align your compensation with the performance of that unit, especially if it's tied to stock. But if you're a standalone company, it's much easier to say, here, the performance of this company and this stock is what you are going to be judged on.
So there's much more focus there.
Yeah. And, you know, one thing I didn't get into the story is another reason why spinoffs tend to trade at a premium is they're often takeover targets. So it's an interesting way of selling a business. Really, you're offloading it to the public markets to allow for somebody else to snap it up.
So it could be a chapter of another story.
It could be. Look out for, you know, if these Honeywell and Pfizer spinoffs, which we wrote about in our story today, if these turn out to be takeover targets in the near future, we'll be following up on that.
We're speaking with The Wall Street Journal's Miriam Gottfried about the success of spinoff companies in the market. And you're listening to Your Money Matters from The Wall Street Journal. Thanks for listening, everyone. Now Miriam, several spinoff scenarios get the spotlight in your story.
How are tax advantages a factor in corporate spin-offs?
Honeywell among them, as you talked about. Another one is eBay's spinoff of PayPal.
Yes, that was a particularly successful one. You could accuse me of cherry picking the most successful one, in fact. But yes, that's a recent one that's done quite well. That was one that activists agitated for and got Carl Icahn actually agitated for eBay to spin off the payment unit PayPal. It did so and PayPal has vastly outperformed the previous parent, eBay.
But spinoffs, they don't always result in the spun-off company lighting up the investment world. You bring up Hewlett Packard Enterprises has struggled against HP on a comparison basis since HP spun it off.
Yeah. I mean, Hewlett Packard Enterprises was thought to be potentially the growthier business, the business that could kind of move away from the traditional printing business that had been weighing it down and spring to life. But that hasn't necessarily panned out, at least so far.
And then there are companies that have a patchwork of operations, a conglomerate, that really have not seen the need to spin off. And companies, you point out, Amazon and Berkshire Hathaway are among them.
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Chapters
4 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:02–0:22
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Why do spun-off companies often outperform their parent companies and the broader market?
0:22–3:01
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How are tax advantages a factor in corporate spin-offs?
3:01–5:24
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Why can independent capital allocation boost a spinoff's performance?
5:24–6:15
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