Why Unemployed Office Workers Are Struggling to Find New Jobs
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Here's your Money Briefing for Friday, January 10th. I'm J.R.
Why is the average job search taking six months now?
Whelan for The Wall Street Journal. On average, it currently takes people about six months to find a job, roughly a month longer than it did during the post-pandemic hiring boom in 2023, according to the Labor Department. Especially hit hard have been unemployed white collar workers.
Now we're at a point where the Fed has raised interest rates a lot to try to fight inflation. And so it's harder for companies to expand, which is what the Fed has been aiming for. And companies have filled a lot of the positions that they needed people for. So if you didn't get one of those musical chairs when you needed one, then it could be too late in some professions.
We'll talk to Wall Street Journal reporter Matt Grossman about the outlook for 2025 after the break.
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How does the headline unemployment rate hide workers' real struggles?
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What caused the post-pandemic boom in job openings to shrink?
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The nation's job picture may look rosy, but unemployed office workers are having a hard time finding work.
Why is the Federal Reserve raising rates affecting hiring and expansion?
Wall Street Journal reporter Matt Grossman joins me. Matt, the unemployment rate has been well below the average during the decade before the pandemic. But what is the complexion of the labor market below that top line number?
The headline unemployment rate does not look so bad. But when you think about the experiences that people are actually having in the labor market, it can be a lot tougher than it might seem from that number. A couple of years ago, for every person who was looking for a job, there were two job openings for them. Recently, that's fallen down to more like one job opening per person. And, of course, that doesn't mean that everybody can just easily get a job because those jobs might not be in the same industries that the people have experience in who are looking for jobs. So what that means is that relatively low headline unemployment rate can be hiding some of the challenges that people have, especially if they're out of work right now.
Why are white-collar office workers facing tougher job prospects than blue-collar workers?
What's been causing the number of open jobs to shrink?
After the pandemic, there was a big uptick in hiring for a couple of reasons. There were some industries, especially around technology and digital services, when everyone was working from home that were really growing very quickly. And it was also a time when interest rates were very low, meaning that when companies wanted to expand and borrow money to do that, it was very cheap and accessible for them.
How long are white-collar workers taking to find jobs and what are they doing in the meantime?
Now we're at a point where the Fed has raised interest rates a lot to try to fight inflation. And so it's harder for companies to expand, which is what the Fed has been aiming for. And companies have filled a lot of the positions that they needed people for. So if you didn't get one of those musical chairs when you needed one, then it could be too late in some professions.
Why would the Fed try to get in the way of companies expanding? That seems counterintuitive in terms of economic expansion.
Yeah, one of the Fed's goals is definitely to maximize the number of people who are employed. But obviously, they're also really concerned about inflation.
Could 2025 bring a turnaround in white-collar hiring and how might Fed moves matter?
And if you have a situation like we did a couple years ago where a lot of companies are competing to hire the same workers, then that pushes up everybody's wages, which in turn – can lead to a lot of inflation. So the Fed definitely wants as many people to have a job as they can. But at the same time, when the labor market gets too tight, that's also a concern of theirs.
Why are white collar workers in particular struggling to find full-time work?
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:01–0:32
2
Why is the average job search taking six months now?
0:32–1:38
3
How does the headline unemployment rate hide workers' real struggles?
1:38–1:48
4
What caused the post-pandemic boom in job openings to shrink?
1:48–2:14
5
Why is the Federal Reserve raising rates affecting hiring and expansion?
2:14–3:09
6
Why are white-collar office workers facing tougher job prospects than blue-collar workers?
3:09–3:35
7
How long are white-collar workers taking to find jobs and what are they doing in the meantime?
3:35–4:14
8
Could 2025 bring a turnaround in white-collar hiring and how might Fed moves matter?
4:14–9:35
Speakers
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