Will iPhone 8 Hurt Apple's 'Supercycle?'
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This is Your Money Matters from The Wall Street Journal. Welcome to Your Money Matters. I'm J.R. Whalen in New York.
What initial market expectations surrounded Apple's new product unveiling?
With the announcement of Apple's new line of products this month, including a cell-connected watch and a trio of new iPhones, the eyes of the business world are on the tech giant to enter what has been described as a super cycle of growth, with some analysts expecting a record $87 billion in revenue for the December quarter. But Wall Street Journal heard on the street columnist Dan Gallagher suggest there are a few flies in the ointment that could get in the way of that super cycle being so super. And he joins us via Skype from San Francisco to discuss. So, Dan, eyebrows were raised not long after Apple announced these new products, right?
Yeah. I mean, this was just last week that they showed them to the world finally, of course, after months of all the leaks and rumors and everything else. So it turned out Apple can't really surprise anymore. The new stuff was kind of in line with what people thought. But one surprise was that they kept... some of their older phones they usually like put out a new phone and then and then demote the one that's just older than that and then kind of lop off the rest so they they're typically selling two phones one at a new price one for less this year once the iphone 10 the x starts selling november they're going to have five phones in their lineup five iphones and ranging in price from like 350 above to above a thousand so that's that's a little unprecedented and it's kind of introduced
in my mind, a little bit of a question as to how the mix of sales is really going to pan out.
And that's a point you make in your story that Apple will have five iPhones on the market, which could impact the average selling price. And that's a number that's very closely watched by investors.
The big problem is that now there's a lot of optimism about the cycle.
Why does having five iPhone models raise questions about average selling price?
Investors expect that average selling price to go up in fiscal 18. In fact, they expect it to pass $700 for the first time in the iPhone's history. And what that implies is, I mean, Apple doesn't say how many of each model it sells when it reports its results, but you can kind of use some of the math to figure where the mix has been. What that implies is that people think that the more expensive phones, especially the iPhone X, the iPhone X that people call, is going to be a huge seller when that comes in November. And if it is, that'll bring that average selling price up. But we hear that's going to be production constrained and that if people don't like the whole face ID thing – I mean there's a lot of things that we – it very well could be a very big seller.
It also could be a little disappointing to what people think it will be. And if it does, you can bring that mix down. That's where you kind of get into this question of how is this cycle really going to play out.
And you also have to bring into the mix the tepid reviews that we've seen for the new Apple Watch as well.
Exactly. And honestly, the iPhone 8 hasn't gotten, you know, a lot of reviews have essentially said, yeah, it's a decent phone, but either wait for the X or, in the case of our own Jeff Fowler, said, you know, the 7 is really good. If you don't really need the latest, if you don't really want to wait for that X, get the 7 and save yourself some money, obviously, and
How could iPhone X production constraints and Face ID affect the iPhone supercycle?
A few have said that. So that's not great for the phone that's going on sale today. And then the whole Apple Watch 3, the whole idea for that is that has to connect directly to cell networks. That's why that was kind of its selling proposition, and it looks like it's having a problem doing that reliably.
And those products are going on sale today, Friday, September 22nd, when we're speaking with Dan Gallagher about expectations for Apple following the unveiling of its new line of products. And you're listening to Your Money Matters from The Wall Street Journal. Thanks for listening, everybody. Now, Dan, if anyone has any question about the importance of the iPhone to Apple, you have a wonderful stat in your column.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:02–0:14
2
What initial market expectations surrounded Apple's new product unveiling?
0:14–2:03
3
Why does having five iPhone models raise questions about average selling price?
2:03–3:26
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How could iPhone X production constraints and Face ID affect the iPhone supercycle?
3:26–4:29
5
What early reviews have said about the iPhone 8 and how might that impact sales?
4:29–7:35
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Why are tepid reviews of the Apple Watch Series 3 damaging to Apple's image?
7:35–7:54
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