As a writer and director, Ryan Coogler is drawn to stories about identity. He made Fruitvale Station to confront his own thoughts and fears about being a Black man in America. He made Creed as an extension of the dynamic he has with his dad. He made Black Panther while conscious of the impact it would have on a global community. Ryan and Marc talk about these films as well as Ryan's latest movie Sinners, which also explores Ryan's preferred topic of identity, but this time through the lens of Delta Blues, doppelgangers, and vampires. Sign up here for WTF+ to get the full show archives and weekly bonus material! https://plus.acast.com/s/wtf-with-marc-maron-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Alright, let's do this. How are you, what the fuckers, what the fuck buddies, what the fuck nicks? What's happening? I'm Marc Maron. This is my podcast. Welcome to it. What is happening? How's it going? How's it feeling? I just want to check in. Tough times. Tough times in the world. Tough times if you think a certain way. Tough times in your head if they're already tough already.
Already tough already. Yeah, I just said that sentence. Look, I'm sitting in a hotel room. In Traverse City, Michigan. I did two shows here last night and they went really nice. They went well. It was a nice little theater. It's a comedy festival up here. I've never been up to Traverse City. On some level, in my immediate world, right now, I'm in a room.
I'm looking out on what I imagine is Lake Michigan, correct? And it's pretty, it's a little overcast. It's quiet because this is a summer town. So it's got that summer town off-season vibe. I guess it's similar to like an island, like island people. I mean, there are definitely locals who spend the summer accommodating tourists who are there to have a good time.
And then here we are in the sort of... Off-Season-Time, where the locals kind of can relax and sort of fortify their spirits in preparation to hide the resentment for the demanding tourists of the summer season. So it's kind of got a nice vibe. So look, folks, today on the show I talked to Ryan Kugler. He's the writer and director of Fruitville Station, Creed and the two Black Panther movies.
His new film is called Sinners, which he made with his frequent collaborator Michael B. Jordan. And it's a pretty trippy movie. I didn't know what to expect. A lot of times I get guests and I get screeners. But this movie is definitely a horror movie. I think it's...
Jordan Peele macht seine Sache, aber es scheint eine Welt von schwarz-zentriertem Horror zu sein, das ziemlich intensiv und engagiert ist. Ich hatte keine Ahnung, worum dieses Film ging, aber es fokussierte sich...
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