David Cronenberg starts making each new film of his as though he’s making a movie for the first time. Marc sees connective tissue through all of David’s work, consisting of “the meat, the machine, mutations of desire, and pain.” David and Marc explore these ideas in specific films, including Scanners, The Brood, The Fly, Naked Lunch, Crash, Cosmopolis, and Maps to the Stars, as well as David’s latest film The Shrouds, which he considers to be a discussion with his audience about grief. Sign up here for WTF+ to get the full show archives and weekly bonus material! https://plus.acast.com/s/wtf-with-marc-maron-podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Alright, let's do this. How are you, what the fuckers, what the fuck buddies, what the fuck nicks, what's happening? I'm Marc Maron, this is my podcast. Willkommen. Du bist gerade hier. Es ist nicht, dass du zu spät bist, aber es gibt viel zu fangen. Wie geht es allen? Heute auf dem Show habe ich mit David Cronenberg gesprochen. David Cronenberg, the impact of that dude's stuff.
I mean, I'm sure many of you have seen the movies. If you don't know who he is, maybe you saw Scanners, The Dead Zone, The Fly, A History of Violence, Eastern Promises, many, many movies. He's got a new film out. It's called The Shrouds. Some of his movies are challenging for different reasons. Some of his movies are challenging for narrative reasons.
Some of his movies are challenging for graphic, kind of, you know, grotesque body horror, which is just a subgenre imposed by critics on Cronenberg. I think he's just a filmmaker that has a thematic... kind of, I wouldn't say obsession, but he is working out life through art in the way that he does and a lot of it is a bit on the gnarly side.
The new film is really kind of a complex meditation on grief and mortality and I enjoyed it. I rewatched some of his movies and I watched some for the first time and some of them, like the ones I hadn't seen, I'm like, how the fuck did I not know about this movie? I mean, I never saw Cosmopolis. Did you even hear of it? Cosmopolis with that guy, what's his name, Pattinson?
It's kind of a great movie. And it's based on a Don DeLillo book. And I'm like a Don DeLillo guy. I mean, I kind of lost touch with Don after the 9-11 book. I can't remember what that was called. But early on, I'd read all his books. I was obsessed with Libra. I was obsessed with White Noise, Great Jones Street, Ratner's Star. I mean, they were great books. And he's got a very specific tone.
And when I watched Cosmopolis, which is based on a DeLillo novel, I was like, oh my God, it's all like DeLillo language. And it may be misreading DeLillo, but it's kind of a great examination of that first wave of tech money and these young people. Men who became filthy rich. There's kind of an element of American Psycho in there, but not the violent element.
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