Bianca Spender on Growing Up as Carla Zampatti's Daughter: PART 1
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My mum was very strong and she was very, you know, she had to lead like a man in a man's world. Men are taught a lot about like a male is assertive, they're successful, they're ambitious. Those terms aren't used as favourably for women, unfortunately. There are a whole plethora that I don't need to talk about, about terms for women who are determined. They're bossy, you know, they never call a man bossy, but they call a woman bossy. Why is that? Because she's the boss?
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Hello and welcome back to You're Gonna Want to Hear This. I'm your host, Georgie McCourt. Now, today's guest, Bianca Spender, was born into one of the country's most recognisable families. And in this conversation, Bianca takes us inside what it was really like growing up with the legendary designer Carla Zampatti as her mother. She also shares with us the lessons that she learned from watching her mother lead. and why she felt she had to prove herself far beyond the family business. We go pretty deep in today's conversation. We talk all about mum guilt, and yes, she experiences it as well. Ambition, living with dyslexia, the decision to finally step away and launch her own label, and designing fashion that makes women feel just like themselves, because she believes clothes should make you dance.
We also talk about surrounding yourself with the right people and how that can change everything. Today, Bianca opens up about losing both of her parents within 18 months, facing skin cancer twice, and how grief has really shaped her perspective. These are all things that she once was very quiet about, but she's chosen to speak more openly about them over the last couple of years. This is Bianca Spender, and you're going to want to hear this. Now, Bianca, I want to go back to your childhood. I always like to start at the beginning. And you shared a room with your sister, Allegra. And I was laughing because I've got two girls. They don't share a room. They used to. But you put masking tape down the middle of the room to protect your side and especially your clothes.
And so I read that you were really neat and Allegra was messy and Tell me about that room and about like why you put masking tape down the middle.
Well, so I'm a person who loves being really close to people. So sharing a room for me was a joy. Like I'm an extrovert. I always want to talk. If I'm reading a book, I want to share about this amazing story. And so I loved sharing a room with my sister, but I'm also quite a tidy person. And I really, I love to love everyone's spirit. And some people have a tidy spirit and some people have a messy spirit. And my sister is just born from Camp Messy. And what's so funny, like it makes so many things that she does so wonderful. Like she'll put these eclectic things together. She's everything from an incredible painter to an amazing reader. She's prolific. And so I know her mind just has so many dimensions and the idea of order is just so unnecessary in it.
See, I envy those people. I really envy them because I'm such a neat freak.
Well, I need order. I wish I could be more relaxed. I can't actually find things if there's this pile. I'm always fascinated. My sister had this ability. I would laugh at school. I'd be like I mean she's younger than me but she was always so so bright I would often ask her to help me with my homework and I'd ask her this question about maths or anything and she would find this one piece of paper in this ridiculous pile which was all of the filing of all of her subjects and for me mine were all like filed by subject by date and then I had underlined like red was top heading green was second black was first and then blue was fourth and and the way that My brain, I later learnt it out in life when my son was in, he would have been six or seven, that he was dyslexic.
And I learned then that I was dyslexic and mum was dyslexic. And so having order was actually a coping mechanism because I couldn't see things on a page.
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Chapters
4 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:04–7:46
2
How did Bianca and her sister use masking tape to share a bedroom as kids?
7:46–15:55
3
When did Bianca discover dyslexia ran through her family and how did it shape her coping strategies?
15:55–27:35
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What lessons did Bianca learn at the ‘School of Mum’ that weren’t about fashion?
27:35–36:28
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