Bianca Spender on Losing Carla Zampatti and Living With Grief: PART 2
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Welcome back to You're Gonna Wanna Hear This, a Marie Claire podcast. I'm Georgie McCourt, your host. Now, this is part two of our chat with Bianca Spender, who was born into one of the country's most recognizable fashion families and grew up with the legendary designer Carla Zampatti as her mother. If you're rejoining us after listening to part one, welcome back. And if you haven't already listened to part one, scroll back in your feed and have a listen to that chat first and then join me again here. In part two, Bianca is going to share how she answers the question, how are you when dealing with grief? But also how two separate conversations led to her being diagnosed with skin cancer, not once, but twice.
Let's get into it. Now, nearly two decades. Is it over two decades?
My business is 18 years. 18 years. And I know that because my son is 17 years and I fell pregnant with him when I did my first show. And I have no idea. Like, you know when you're like, really? The first fashion show I ever did, I managed to fall pregnant with my first child? Like, it's crazy. 18 years.
I mean, that is incredible. It's an independent Australian brand and, like, only – If you've never founded a fashion brand, no one listening will understand the challenges and how much work and passion and dedication it takes to run an Australian luxury label. I'm interested in how you protect creativity while also carrying all the commercial responsibilities of being both a founder and creative director. How do you manage both?
I mean, I think every season I'm still learning. So there's no one magic formula.
Is that how every year feels? Does every year feel I'm still learning so much?
I'm so humbled. Every season. I mean, there are four seasons we do a year. Every season I learn something, whether it be about my craft, about myself, about creativity, about business, about people. I mean, I feel, as I said, I'm never bored. I just don't have a mind that can ever be bored. But I think what's so fascinating about the commerciality and creativity and the thing that has helped me and everyone is different. So I have creative days and and let's call them business days. And sometimes I'm not lucky enough for it to be a day. It might be a morning. Like I'll have a creative morning where I'm like I'm really going to make this my design-focused time and then I'll have days where I know it's like back-to-back meetings, looking at all of the departments, management, da-da-da-da, and it's like, okay, that is that kind of time.
And I'm a bit – I am the person who doesn't respond to every email in that day because if I did, I would never find a minute to be creative because – There's always another email in my inbox. I mean, I get, I don't know, one to 200 emails a day. When do you feel you're most creative? Oh, it's always... 5, like 6 p.m. to 2 in the morning. And that's only because everyone's gone. And any email that anyone sends you at 6 p.m., you know you don't really have to answer. And any WhatsApp message or text or call is not urgent. No one is really urgently. The stores are physically closed. The online dispatch is off. Between those hours, it's like, okay. So I'll often be like, I'll call my partner and I'll say,
oh, darling, I'm actually onto something. I don't know when I'll be home, but I have to get this somewhere.
How would you describe the Bianca Spender aesthetic?
For me, it's very much this, I talked about freedom and movement and there's a felt sense in that, that I'm always like, I'm always trying to imbue an energy into the clothes.
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Chapters
4 chapters
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–14:30
2
How does Bianca split her days to protect creative energy while running an 18-year-old label?
14:30–21:52
3
When during the day does Bianca feel most creative and why are evenings ideal?
21:52–27:27
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What does the Bianca Spender aesthetic mean for movement, drape and how clothes should feel?
27:27–33:39
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