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Measuring what Matters with the MD of Data, Measurement and Analytics at Google UK

11 Jun 2026

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Biren Kalaria, Managing Director of Data, Measurement and Analytics at Google UK, joined us to talk about one of the most requested topics in the community: how to prove the value of marketing to a sceptical boss. It's a question that came up again and again in our State of Marketers research, and if you've ever had a brand campaign killed because it "didn't convert," this one's for you.We got into the measurement tools most marketers don't know exist, why last-click attribution misses 75% of the value marketing creates, and what Bern calls a "suite of truths" — the set of metrics that actually gives you confidence to invest and make the case upward. There's also a brilliant scenario at the end where we work through exactly how to handle that CFO meeting.SponsorsThis episode was filmed at our Work.Life recording studio in London: https://work.life/Shoutout to @Weglot for sponsoring this episode :) SpeakersBiren Kalaria https://www.linkedin.com/in/bkalaria/Think with Google: https://www.thinkwithgoogle.comJoe Glover https://www.linkedin.com/in/josepheglover/Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction03:29 - Skills to build today04:22 - Admired behaviour in marketers06:42 - Dream mentor09:42 - Biggest mentorship lesson18:33 - One piece of marketing advice24:48 - The pace of change30:57 - Cracking YouTube marketing40:53 - Where measurement has improved47:02 - Brand measurement tools54:10 - AI and analytics57:31 - Meeting the CFO1:00:05 - The last-click scenario🔔 Subscribe to get every new episode.Join 35,000+ marketers getting our weekly newsletter (it's free): https://themarketingmeetup.com/newsletterListen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/mk/podcast/your-cmo-mentor/id1850910303Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0cpW4Tsm2YuKJj488cNX1s

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13:00H | 21 DIC 2025 | Fin de Semana

10:00H | 21 DIC 2025 | Fin de Semana

12:00H | 20 DIC 2025 | Fin de Semana

2ª PARTE | 06 ENE 2026 | EL PARTIDAZO DE COPE

3ª PARTE | 22 ENE 2026 | EL PARTIDAZO DE COPE

3ª PARTE | 04 MAR 2026 | EL PARTIDAZO DE COPE

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